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Hi

I am planning to build a new pc but i need some advice for the cooling part. I decided to go for liquid cooling since since my old pc used a fan and it was noisy and heated up badly but i have some questions regarding it as im unfamiliar with liquid cooling having never used one.

1. What components does a liquid cooling system cool? I've heard that it cools a cpu and gpu, can it cool those 2 simultaneously? Also aside from those 2 components what else does it cool?
2. Would it be better to purchase an all in one kit or custom kit?
3. Which PC cases would be best to accommodate a liquid cooling system? Or what size should the pc case be?
4. Is it common for people to mix fan and liquid cooling in their pc, if so is that a wise choice or is pure liquid cooling enough?
5. Does liquid cooling require a special fluid or is distilled water sufficient? Also how often should the liquid be replaced.

Thanks a lot for any replies.
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Water cooling isn't much different from air cooling. Liquid is used to move heat from hot circuits to a radiator where fans move heat into the air. With air coolers, heat pipes move the heat to the radiator. The radiator, heat pipes, and fan are all part of one unit.

The benefit of water cooling is that hoses can carry water to multiple components and radiators. In some cases, a large air cooler mounted to the CPU will not fit where a water block would.

1. Water blocks are made for every component in the system. However, not every component will have a compatible block on the market.
2. Depends on your budget and components. Custom loops are very expensive and AIOs worth buying are above $100.
3. Most cases with dual 120mm mounts support most radiators of this size. Clearance and multiple-radiator loops get more complicated.
4. Liquid cooling is fan cooling. Fans still dissipate heat from radiators. Most people only use liquid coolers for their CPUs because it looks cool.
5. You can use either. Custom loop fluids are more complicated because you have tons of options, so I would do some research if you're interested.

Long story short, you had a crappy fan in your old PC. You should probably just use air coolers with better fans in the future.


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r00t beat me to it, but I just want to re-iterate that there is no getting away from case fans. You're pretty much always going to need fans in a system unless you're specifically building a system for silence, in which case you'll be sacrificing performance.

When people say watercooling is quieter than air, they're usually talking about a custom loop which is significantly more expensive, and even then not always going to be the quieter option.

If you're going custom loop route, you're going to want a high end system to justify it IMO. Otherwise, it's kind of a waste, unless you're just doing it for the fun of it.

Here's my old thread on custom loop's, so if you want to know the basics, hopefully this can kind of help;
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Ok, so in cases of water cooling, what are some good All in one water cooling that can cool your CPU and GPU at the same time?

Also if i were to consider air cooling, would fans with a heat sink
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be a good choice? If so do those also cool 1 component at a time?

Thanks
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QuintinX wrote Ok, so in cases of water cooling, what are some good All in one water cooling that can cool your CPU and GPU at the same time?

Also if i were to consider air cooling, would fans with a heat sink
e.g
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be a good choice? If so do those also cool 1 component at a time?

Thanks

"All-in-one" means the radiator, hoses, reservoir, fluid, and radiator come pre-assembled. They have one water block and cool only one CPU or GPU.

Graphics cards usually have good cooling from the factory. Non-reference models with two or three fans don't need any help and are quiet.

A cooler LIKE that is good, but you'll want to buy a different model. 13 will know what the flavor of the month is.
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QuintinX wrote Ok, so in cases of water cooling, what are some good All in one water cooling that can cool your CPU and GPU at the same time?

None. You can buy a Hybrid GPU which will have an 120/140mm AIO CLC, but these aren't too common and are more expensive than an air cooled GPU that will perform similarly. Otherwise, you need to buy an aftermarket kit for your GPU which will let you use any number of AIO CLC's to cool your GPU. Though, at that point, you'd probably be better off just going with a fully custom loop IMO.

There are some semi-open options, like EKWB's Predator 360. The Predator 360 was replaced but they completely changed the name and I can't remember what the new one is called, or even if it's still being sold tbh. Or, you can buy something like this from EKWB;
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It's the best way for a beginner to get in to custom loops IMO, but this is an open custom loop, not an AIO.

QuintinX wrote Also if i were to consider air cooling, would fans with a heat sink be a good choice? If so do those also cool 1 component at a time?

Good choice? Yes. The right choice depends on you're specific system, what CPU you have and case are most important, also your budget and currency is important obviously.

r00t wrote A cooler LIKE that is good, but you'll want to buy a different model. 13 will know what the flavor of the month is.

Yeah, the 212 EVO specifically should be forgotten about completely lol. Cryorig M9i, Raijintek Aidos, or Be Quiet! Pure Rock (Slim) are my go to's for $15-20 coolers, since they are all better options than the 212 EVO and cheaper.
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