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Hello! I am currently new to building PCs and this is my first project! I am currently trying to upgrade my Acer Aspire M5630 (https://www.pcworld.idg.com.au/review/acer/aspire_m5630_at370/219205/specs/) for gaming purposes but I am still in the process of choosing the hardware for my product. I have already chosen the type of RAM I will be using :
(https://www.amazon.com/Buffered-PC2-5300-667MHz-Memory-CENTERNEX/dp/B071KTRZ9T/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1504909544&sr=1-1-spons&keywords=ddr2+ram&psc=1)

but I cannot figure out which graphics card and processor I will be picking for my new gaming PC.
I have already figured out that my PC's motherboard only supports DDR2, but I am not sure if DDR2 graphic cards can withstand the demanding graphics that modern games have.

Can someone suggest any DDR2 graphic cards that will be competent for modern games?

Also, I have heard that a DDR2 motherboard is compatible with DDR3 graphic cards. Can anyone clarify this?
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Your motherboard is only compatible with DDR2 RAM, it has nothing to do with the GPU VRAM. You're not going to want to run a GPU with DDR3 RAM anyway since even the lowest end current generation GPUs, the GT 1030 and RX 550 use GDDR5.

What GPU you should buy depends on your budget and currency. Also, you need to make sure your PSU is compatible.

Don't buy that RAM. Investing in DDR2 now makes zero sense considering DDR4 is the norm. If you want a CPU upgrade, you'll pretty much need a new motherboard and RAM. Again though, need to know your budget and currency for any upgrades.
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My budget for the RAM and graphics card combined is $300. I have decided not to upgrade the CPU or the motherboard because of the hefty pricetags on those items. I will try to keep it as the DDR2, removing the chances of upgrading it.
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My budget for the RAM and graphics card combined is $300. I have decided not to upgrade the CPU or the motherboard because of the hefty pricetags on those items. I will try to keep it as the DDR2, removing the chances of upgrading it.


DDR2 is a dead path, and shouldn't be considered keep-able by any standards unless home servers.

You can get a CPU/mobo/RAM and a GPU for 300.
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pcpcpcpcpc wrote
Thank you for the quick reply!

I currently have a $300 budget for both the graphics card and RAM combined. I have decided that I will not be upgrading the CPU because the price is way too high for my budget (I currently have a Intel Core 2Duo, 2.2GHz). I am going to stick with the current motherboard (Intel) so purchasing modern hardware will not be necessary.

So, if I am going to stick with the DDR2 motherboard, will the RAM that I included in the original post still be viable? or will I have to go with something else?

Also, the PSU is not an important factor for now as I can buy one if necessary.

One more thing, do any DDR2 graphic cards meet the recommended requirements for any game? Is it even worth investing in this computer?

Once again, thank you for your reply!

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Okay, so the PC you linked listed a Q6600, a quad core CPU. However, you claim you have a Core 2 Duo at 2.2GHz, which would be an E4500 I think. Either way, the CPU is over a decade old at this point. It's not going to last you much longer, at all. You really should be just building a new system, but you could probably hold on to the CPU, Mobo, and RAM for now until you have some more money, and then for $150-200, you could upgrade those. Do NOT invest in more DDR2 RAM though.

It's a pre-built, so it's almost guarantee'd to have a shitty PSU, which is definitely an important factor. Would be stupid to start throwing money at an old system with a shitty PSU.

Forget DDR2 GPUs.

Right, so you'll need to download Speccy and post a screenshot for us, that will give us more accurate information on your current components and what can be re-used. After that, tell us what you're actually looking to achieve with this upgrade. Why are you upgrading? To play games? What else will you use the system for? Also give us an idea of some games you plan on playing.
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pcpcpcpcpc wrote
Thank you for the quick reply!

I currently have a $300 budget for both the graphics card and RAM combined. I have decided that I will not be upgrading the CPU because the price is way too high for my budget (I currently have a Intel Core 2Duo, 2.2GHz). I am going to stick with the current motherboard (Intel) so purchasing modern hardware will not be necessary.

So, if I am going to stick with the DDR2 motherboard, will the RAM that I included in the original post still be viable? or will I have to go with something else?

Also, the PSU is not an important factor for now as I can buy one if necessary.

One more thing, do any DDR2 graphic cards meet the recommended requirements for any game? Is it even worth investing in this computer?

Once again, thank you for your reply!

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Okay, so the PC you linked listed a Q6600, a quad core CPU. However, you claim you have a Core 2 Duo at 2.2GHz, which would be an E4500 I think. Either way, the CPU is over a decade old at this point. It's not going to last you much longer, at all. You really should be just building a new system, but you could probably hold on to the CPU, Mobo, and RAM for now until you have some more money, and then for $150-200, you could upgrade those. Do NOT invest in more DDR2 RAM though.

It's a pre-built, so it's almost guarantee'd to have a shitty PSU, which is definitely an important factor. Would be stupid to start throwing money at an old system with a shitty PSU.

Forget DDR2 GPUs.

Right, so you'll need to download Speccy and post a screenshot for us, that will give us more accurate information on your current components and what can be re-used. After that, tell us what you're actually looking to achieve with this upgrade. Why are you upgrading? To play games? What else will you use the system for? Also give us an idea of some games you plan on playing.


Alright, so I guess i'm not going to invest in this old PC anymore after how much I realize that what i'm investing in at the moment is not worth much. OK so what I want to achieve is to be able to create a PC that can play games such as, DOOM and Destiny 2 at a consistent frame rate above 40 or maybe even 60. The PC will be solely for games and nothing else (other than web browsing). I just thought upgrading would be a cheap alternative for a gaming PC instead of making one from scratch. Also considering how old this PC is I doubt I can reuse parts (maybe the tower?).
[img]https://ibb.co/bLqgbv[/img] (Specs Image)
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You can re-use the HDD. You could maybe re-use the case, but you'd need to check it has enough room for whatever GPU you get. You'll also need to make sure it has room for a new PSU.

You COULD do this;
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Pentium G4560 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($78.89 @ B&H)
Motherboard: ASRock - B150M-HDS Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($45.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial - 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($62.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1050 2GB Mini Video Card ($112.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $300.85

you'd need to re-use the case and PSU, which could work, but I'm not certain since I'm not sure what PSU you have.

This is what I'd probably do though;
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Storage: Crucial - BX300 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB Mini Video Card ($144.99 @ B&H)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($53.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $258.97

You can grab a decent case for $40, or a pretty nice case for $60-80. Again though, you SHOULD be able to re-use the case for now but I can't guarantee that. With this, you'd be re-using the old CPU. Mobo, and RAM, which will hold you back but it allows you to get a better GPU, an SSD, a nice new modular PSU, and maybe a case. Then when you have a spare $150-200, you can upgrade CPU, Mobo, and RAM, which will give you a pretty solid little system.
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13 wroteYou can re-use the HDD. You could maybe re-use the case, but you'd need to check it has enough room for whatever GPU you get. You'll also need to make sure it has room for a new PSU.

You COULD do this;
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Pentium G4560 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($78.89 @ B&H)
Motherboard: ASRock - B150M-HDS Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($45.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial - 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($62.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1050 2GB Mini Video Card ($112.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $300.85

you'd need to re-use the case and PSU, which could work, but I'm not certain since I'm not sure what PSU you have.

This is what I'd probably do though;
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Storage: Crucial - BX300 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB Mini Video Card ($144.99 @ B&H)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($53.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $258.97

You can grab a decent case for $40, or a pretty nice case for $60-80. Again though, you SHOULD be able to re-use the case for now but I can't guarantee that. With this, you'd be re-using the old CPU. Mobo, and RAM, which will hold you back but it allows you to get a better GPU, an SSD, a nice new modular PSU, and maybe a case. Then when you have a spare $150-200, you can upgrade CPU, Mobo, and RAM, which will give you a pretty solid little system.


WOW! Thank you so much for providing with so much help! Although I was so confused at first, you have clarified so much, even to provide me with a list of parts! Thank you so much for your help!
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13 wroteYou can re-use the HDD. You could maybe re-use the case, but you'd need to check it has enough room for whatever GPU you get. You'll also need to make sure it has room for a new PSU.

You COULD do this;
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Pentium G4560 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($78.89 @ B&H)
Motherboard: ASRock - B150M-HDS Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($45.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial - 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($62.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1050 2GB Mini Video Card ($112.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $300.85

you'd need to re-use the case and PSU, which could work, but I'm not certain since I'm not sure what PSU you have.

This is what I'd probably do though;
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Storage: Crucial - BX300 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB Mini Video Card ($144.99 @ B&H)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($53.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $258.97

You can grab a decent case for $40, or a pretty nice case for $60-80. Again though, you SHOULD be able to re-use the case for now but I can't guarantee that. With this, you'd be re-using the old CPU. Mobo, and RAM, which will hold you back but it allows you to get a better GPU, an SSD, a nice new modular PSU, and maybe a case. Then when you have a spare $150-200, you can upgrade CPU, Mobo, and RAM, which will give you a pretty solid little system.


WOW! Thank you so much for providing with so much help! Although I was so confused at first, you have clarified so much, even to provide me with a list of parts! Thank you so much for your help!


Keep us updated on what you do next
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13 wroteYou can re-use the HDD. You could maybe re-use the case, but you'd need to check it has enough room for whatever GPU you get. You'll also need to make sure it has room for a new PSU.

You COULD do this;
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Pentium G4560 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($78.89 @ B&H)
Motherboard: ASRock - B150M-HDS Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($45.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial - 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($62.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1050 2GB Mini Video Card ($112.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $300.85

you'd need to re-use the case and PSU, which could work, but I'm not certain since I'm not sure what PSU you have.

This is what I'd probably do though;
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Storage: Crucial - BX300 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB Mini Video Card ($144.99 @ B&H)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($53.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $258.97

You can grab a decent case for $40, or a pretty nice case for $60-80. Again though, you SHOULD be able to re-use the case for now but I can't guarantee that. With this, you'd be re-using the old CPU. Mobo, and RAM, which will hold you back but it allows you to get a better GPU, an SSD, a nice new modular PSU, and maybe a case. Then when you have a spare $150-200, you can upgrade CPU, Mobo, and RAM, which will give you a pretty solid little system.


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