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Rari wrote
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One cringes to hear scientists cooing over the universe or any part thereof like schoolgirls over-heated by their first crush. From the studies of Krafft-Ebbing onward, we know that it is possible to become excited about anything from shins to shoehorns. But it would be nice if just one of these gushing eggheads would step back and, as a concession to objectivity, speak the truth: THERE IS NOTHING INNATELY IMPRESSIVE ABOUT THE UNIVERSE OR ANYTHING IN IT.

- Thomas Ligotti


I don't like that I think this quote is 100% accurate, but I still do.

And yes, this quote is designed to be confrontational.


always somebody with some negative shit to say

If you find nothing impressive about the universe then i feel bad for your cold heart


Negative but true.
You find everything impressive about the universe and I feel bad for your delusional heart.

It doesn't matter if the universe spans trillions of lightyears or stops just outside the Milky Way, your life is still the same. You will still grow old and die, and our species will still likely never encounter an intelligent alien species before being wiped out.

"ooh this star is bigger than these 2 stars put together."
and? That matters to us why? Because humans have developed a sense of awe which we tie to a sense of us having a grand future.
You see space and you think of spaceships traversing the cosmos, interacting with alien civilizations, and even if that were going to be the case you would still be dead and rotting by then.

If humans applied all of this money and interest in space towards solving problems on Earth then we wouldn't have to see news stories about famine affecting hundreds of thousands of people in South Sudan.

I would rather solve real issues affecting real people on Earth while you would rather spend that time and money staring at the sky and wondering how many legs an alien species might have, yet i'm the one with a cold heart? Please.


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Grimscribe wrote
Rari wrote
Grimscribe wrote
One cringes to hear scientists cooing over the universe or any part thereof like schoolgirls over-heated by their first crush. From the studies of Krafft-Ebbing onward, we know that it is possible to become excited about anything from shins to shoehorns. But it would be nice if just one of these gushing eggheads would step back and, as a concession to objectivity, speak the truth: THERE IS NOTHING INNATELY IMPRESSIVE ABOUT THE UNIVERSE OR ANYTHING IN IT.

- Thomas Ligotti


I don't like that I think this quote is 100% accurate, but I still do.

And yes, this quote is designed to be confrontational.


always somebody with some negative shit to say

If you find nothing impressive about the universe then i feel bad for your cold heart


Negative but true.
You find everything impressive about the universe and I feel bad for your delusional heart.

It doesn't matter if the universe spans trillions of lightyears or stops just outside the Milky Way, your life is still the same. You will still grow old and die, and our species will still likely never encounter an intelligent alien species before being wiped out.

"ooh this star is bigger than these 2 stars put together."
and? That matters to us why? Because humans have developed a sense of awe which we tie to a sense of us having a grand future.
You see space and you think of spaceships traversing the cosmos, interacting with alien civilizations, and even if that were going to be the case you would still be dead and rotting by then.

If humans applied all of this money and interest in space towards solving problems on Earth then we wouldn't have to see news stories about famine affecting hundreds of thousands of people in South Sudan.

I would rather solve real issues affecting real people on Earth while you would rather spend that time and money staring at the sky and wondering how many legs and alien species might have, yet i'm the one with a cold heart? Please.


lmao what's your problem, didn't mention at any point what the government should and not spend money on,why do you just ramble on with assumptions you've made? To sound clever ?
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well that escalated quickly
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I feel that the universe goes on forever, and never ends. To be honest it's incredible to think what could be out there!
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Rari wrote
Grimscribe wrote
Rari wrote
Grimscribe wrote
One cringes to hear scientists cooing over the universe or any part thereof like schoolgirls over-heated by their first crush. From the studies of Krafft-Ebbing onward, we know that it is possible to become excited about anything from shins to shoehorns. But it would be nice if just one of these gushing eggheads would step back and, as a concession to objectivity, speak the truth: THERE IS NOTHING INNATELY IMPRESSIVE ABOUT THE UNIVERSE OR ANYTHING IN IT.

- Thomas Ligotti


I don't like that I think this quote is 100% accurate, but I still do.

And yes, this quote is designed to be confrontational.


always somebody with some negative shit to say

If you find nothing impressive about the universe then i feel bad for your cold heart


Negative but true.
You find everything impressive about the universe and I feel bad for your delusional heart.

It doesn't matter if the universe spans trillions of lightyears or stops just outside the Milky Way, your life is still the same. You will still grow old and die, and our species will still likely never encounter an intelligent alien species before being wiped out.

"ooh this star is bigger than these 2 stars put together."
and? That matters to us why? Because humans have developed a sense of awe which we tie to a sense of us having a grand future.
You see space and you think of spaceships traversing the cosmos, interacting with alien civilizations, and even if that were going to be the case you would still be dead and rotting by then.

If humans applied all of this money and interest in space towards solving problems on Earth then we wouldn't have to see news stories about famine affecting hundreds of thousands of people in South Sudan.

I would rather solve real issues affecting real people on Earth while you would rather spend that time and money staring at the sky and wondering how many legs and alien species might have, yet i'm the one with a cold heart? Please.


lmao what's your problem, didn't mention at any point what the government should and not spend money on,why do you just ramble on with assumptions you've made? To sound clever ?


No, I was addressing the topic as a whole. Other people have mentioned the Government but I was also speaking more about humanity as a whole.
If humanity applied the interest it has in space to solving problems here on Earth there would be a whole lot less problems here on Earth.

You think I could be this pessimistic and cynical about life and care if you think I'm clever at the same time? I do have a tendency to ramble on, but that's more for me than some random person on the internet. I do this instead of keeping a diary, I guess.

I'm well aware that this kind of pessimistic and cynical view of life is one that most people are extremely resistant to. I'm not surprised though, considering it basically says that your life is pointless and everything you do will amount to nothing, your interests, thoughts, dreams, likes and hates are all illusions.
It's something that everybody knows but closes off to themselves because it's almost impossible to carry on living when you see life that way.

But yes, the universe is magnificent. It's probably not endless, just incredibly vast. Rapidly expanding meaning that eventually all atoms will be separated from one another. There will be no energy, no heat. That's why they call it the heat death of the universe.
I wonder... would we still think it is magnificent then if we could see it?
Or is it only when it makes things which look pretty and glow in the darkness that we think it is incredible?
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Anyone wondered whats in a black hole i think if you go in it you will go to another universe just imagine that.

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Huge more than we will ever know parts we will never get to explore
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Illustrated wrote I would say its at least thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiis big.




evident wrote ON TOPIC: The US should stop spending on their military and more on NASA, we could build a research station on Mars in the next 5 years if they gave the US's military budget to NASA.

You can't just give away the budget, that's ridiculous.
The budget pays soldiers, and for many, it's their only job.
With no budget, there's no military, no defense, and nobody to clean up the rest of the worlds problems.


Sorry to trigger your patriotism but I meant to be spending more on research or starting to colonize planets, what we are meant to be doing. Giving the whole budget is obviously not that good of an idea, we still need an army to explore unknown planets.
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One of my favorite documentary's
National Geographic | How big is the Universe - Documentary 1080p



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Grimscribe wrote

If humans applied all of this money and interest in space towards solving problems on Earth then we wouldn't have to see news stories about famine affecting hundreds of thousands of people in South Sudan.

I would rather solve real issues affecting real people on Earth while you would rather spend that time and money staring at the sky and wondering how many legs and alien species might have, yet i'm the one with a cold heart? Please.


Sooooo I'm confused, do you not think the study of space improves life here on Earth? Satellites are one the greatest feats of astronomy, and are integral in our abilities to survive and communicate. You don't want to hear about people starving in South Sudan? You wouldn't even be getting those news stories without satellites and remote imagery to bring them to you. Want to keep track of a hurricane about to destroy an entire coast line and evacuate people? Needs a satellite. Want to make a phone call to make sure your family is ok after a disaster? Needs a satellite. Want to see the best locations for growing crops to save hundreds of thousands of people? Satellites. It's genuinely unbelievable to me that you don't see how the study of space has saved and improved millions and millions of lives .

The point of trying to find a habitable planet is not to improve our lives right now, its to improve the lives of future generations. I'm well aware I will never set foot on Mars, but if my tax money right now can secure a safe new home for generations to come, why wouldn't I give the .5 penny that I pay out of every paycheck to NASA and let them explore. Studying these other planets is helpful, we can see the impact of a runaway green house effect (Venus) and see the damage that a weak magnetic field can cause (Mars). Without knowing these things, we'd be in the dark in terms of the fate of our own planet. We'd have no idea our Sun was destined to grow and consume Earth without first having studied similar events across the Galaxy. New ways to power Earth could be hidden in the cosmos, or answers to questions of our own existence. Therefore, I don't think its fair to say that studying space is a burden that does not impact daily life on Earth.
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