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CNN had a town hall earlier this week regarding the Florida school shooting. I think the idea was great, but the execution was terrible...


Just like everything CNN says or does, I take with a grain of salt. I watch it live but was not paying much attention and did not really care for it. Then I watched The Ben Shapiro Show and it really opened my eyes.

Here is the episode if you would like to look at it...


I understand that the town hall was not considered a debate, it was more of a discussion. But it was not even really a discussion. It was pretty much consumed with democrats bashing Marco Rubio and the NRA.

I also do not like the sheriff of Broward County. Instead of taking responsibility for the mess up that he made, he passes on the blame. For example, instead of saying that he failed to do something in any of the 20+ calls about the shooter, he blames it on the NRA, or more recently the cops that stayed outside instead of stopping the shooter. Dana Loesch brought up that he had been called about this kid 39 times and the Sheriff then blames the Shooter (which is true, but he is missing the point). He then states that he was not called 39 times when she brings it up, but when other people say it such as Rep Ted Deutch, everybody lets it go.

The cops who did not stop the shooting and decided to stand outside are disgraceful. They should have never been police to begin with. I understand that not every body can do the job of the police, but it is what you have signed up for. I was watching Office401 at lunch and he made a great point... The cop did not go in to the school, he then decides to resign, and now the cop is getting 24 hour protection.

Jake Tapper did a pretty good job at controlling the crowd for the most part. He left his political views out of the discussion and was pretty good at moderating.

Since the town hall was held in Broward County which is a majority of democrats, there were not many republicans at the town hall. This lead to one big circle jerk. Nobody really changed there views on anything and nothing was really solved. I can assume that many republicans did not go because they knew it was hosted by CNN and would be surrounded and bashed by the democrats.

I have seen stories about pro gun students who were in the school during the shooting who were rejected from participating in the discussion because of they would not ask CNN's questions.

The crowd was ridiculous. The crowd along with many left wingers, make gun supporters out to be just as bad as the shooter himself. For example, Cameron Kasky told Marco Rubio "it is hard to look at you, and not look down the barrel of an ar-15 and not look at Nicolaz Cruz". That is completely ridiculous and very frustrating. I can not think of anyone aside from school shooters who actually want school shootings to happen. Almost everyone wants to stop school shootings. Then he goes on to ask Marco Rubio to no longer accept money from the NRA. Rubio explains what he will still accept money, and the crowd boo's at him. And the crowd was not being reasonable at all. They were screaming things such as "murderer" at the NRA rep. They want to ban every single semi automatic gun. The list goes on and on.

I have heard some things about letting teens vote, and that is ridiculous too. I really do not want teens voting, let alone teens who have just went through something like a school shooting. They do not think straight and Cameron Kasky proves my point. They let their emotions get in the way of their thinking.

Although Broward county is very left wing, most of Florida is very right wing. And I understand that it never hurts to try, but these students and people are fighting a losing battle. They will not accomplish very much. To me, it looks like CNN makes these students out to be more than they really are. They do not have very much power. I truly hope that we can come up with solutions, but this town hall did not help anyone aside from comforting the snowflakes at the town hall.

I really did not want to watch the town hall, because I knew all it was going to be was propaganda from the left. But I decided that since people at school were going to be talking about it, I might as well be up to date. And the people at school are just as bad as the snowflakes at the town hall meeting. One thing that someone was really trying to push was that we have had 18 school shootings so far in the year. And it was frustrating to me. I go to class, do my work, and do not say anything. I think that politics should stay out of schools and so I try to avoid them. But this girl was straight up spreading sketchy information. Although there were 18 shootings involving schools, they are not what you think they were. There have only been two or three actual school shootings up to that point... [ Register or Signin to view external links. ]

This was just a little bit of what I thought about the town hall, there was much more wrong with it. With that being said, do not take this rant as me putting the survivors of this school shooting down. I am not really angry at the kids, I am angry with CNN.

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I absolutely hate CNN, they feed off these stories and just keep the conversation rolling for months even after the fact. They feed false information into the public to make things sound worse than they are, and they have fake actors do news interviews.
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All this bullshit aside, this is just all talk talk talk, end of the day nothing gonna get done is it!


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Why even make this topic?
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One thing i've started doing in the past 3 years is not taking the news seriously. I pinpoint statistics and leave the opinions out of my thoughts.

Too many news outlets are just huge opinionated propaganda sites. They push a certain agenda that fits what they want. News doesn't care about me or you, its a business, and they will use all the resources they have to sway the public opinion to fit what they want. What do they want? Money. & politics play a huge role in it too. A certain party with be in favor of a certain news outlet and will funnel money into that news organization to sway public interest in said political figure. It's disgusting.

Stop watching CNN, FOX, and any other major news outlet. You want real news for now on? Distinguish opinions and factual information as you read, and read from multiple sites. Create your own narrative based on the factual evidence you found, don't let others create a narrative for you.
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I think America should ban guns screw the second amendments.
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Mikey wrote [ Register or Signin to view external links. ]

All this bullshit aside, this is just all talk talk talk, end of the day nothing gonna get done is it!


I have never heard "shoot from the hip," so I had to loop it up. This is what The Oxford Dictionary states that it means... [ Register or Signin to view external links. ] If that is what you are talking about, then what is wrong with that. I think it is great that he does not care about peoples feelings, he says what needs to be said. We have too many snowflakes in this world.

I do not believe that he talks out of his ass nor is he absolutely full of shit. Could you give some examples?

JokingGamer wrote Why even make this topic?


I made a rant about something that I do not like. Do you understand what a rant is?

TorProject wrote I think America should ban guns screw the second amendments.


Banning guns is not reasonable nor is it going to stop these crimes. All that banning guns hurts is the law abiding citizens. Criminals do not care about laws. But if you think that laws actually stop criminals, then why not just ban school shootings, ban criminals, ban all crime?

Cygnet wrote One thing i've started doing in the past 3 years is not taking the news seriously. I pinpoint statistics and leave the opinions out of my thoughts.

Too many news outlets are just huge opinionated propaganda sites. They push a certain agenda that fits what they want. News doesn't care about me or you, its a business, and they will use all the resources they have to sway the public opinion to fit what they want. What do they want? Money. & politics play a huge role in it too. A certain party with be in favor of a certain news outlet and will funnel money into that news organization to sway public interest in said political figure. It's disgusting.

Stop watching CNN, FOX, and any other major news outlet. You want real news for now on? Distinguish opinions and factual information as you read, and read from multiple sites. Create your own narrative based on the factual evidence you found, don't let others create a narrative for you.


I understand that main stream news networks are trying to make money and they have an agenda. But that does not make what they did right.

What I have been doing lately is getting information from multiple sources. For example, I watched CNN's town hall then I went and watched the Ben Shapiro Show. Main stream news networks are very up to date and it is how I keep my self informed, but it is really hard to trust anything they say.
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JokingGamer wrote Why even make this topic?

Why even reply to this topic? If you consider a topic to be "pointless", why take the time to respond to it? You're wasting your time for the sake of wasting your time. Congrats on your upvotes.


Anywho, all news outlets are terrible in their own way. I'd much rather do some research myself, as should everybody else, than pay attention to news outlets. As most groups in the media, they'll be centered around one point of view and insult or ridicule the opposig point of view. There will never be a good discussion EVER because people nowadays, on both sides of an argument, can't stand to listen to a differing opinion without becoming furious and belligerent.

I've learned not to pay so much attention to any news outlets, seeing as how they're always misinforming to push their own personal agenda. It happened to me with the recent school shooting, when the 'liberal media' stated that there had been 18 school shootings in 2018, which turned out to be some fake bullshit they tried to push on everybody. Doing my own research and coming to my own conclusion, other than it being the correct thing to do and not let myself be led on by the media, is extremely satisfactory and people should begin to do the same, form their own opinions and not let themselves be quieted by what their close ones think.
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I'm going to steer clear of the gun control side of things here for two reasons.

1) I'm not entirely sure where I stand on the issue and any time I think I have a firm position, something comes along and forces me to reconsider.
2) It's a great way for topics to spiral out of control and be closed, which I don't want to happen here.

The cops who did not stop the shooting and decided to stand outside are disgraceful. They should have never been police to begin with. I understand that not every body can do the job of the police, but it is what you have signed up for. I was watching Office401 at lunch and he made a great point... The cop did not go in to the school, he then decides to resign, and now the cop is getting 24 hour protection.


This should be a chargeable offense.
When someone commits themselves to a job where other people rely on them for safety and they don't provide that safety when they are able - that is comparable to a parent harming their child through criminal negligence.

He knew what was happening and he did nothing. That is grounds for a criminal negligence charge if those two words mean anything when put together.

Jake Tapper did a pretty good job at controlling the crowd for the most part. He left his political views out of the discussion and was pretty good at moderating.


People need to decide what they value more.

a) Sitting in a crowd around a stage to fulfill the illusion that they are involved in the change process.
b) Not having a crowd and being able to watch the people on stage have a real discussion without constant interruption.

These kinds of events don't need a crowd, but news outlets know that they aren't fun to watch unless there is a booing/cheering crowd - impact on the discourse be damned.

And the moderators at these events are usually quite good because they don't need to interject their own political views overtly.
The network has already interjected them covertly in other ways, like rigging the questions or hosting the event in an area which predominantly agrees with their view.

I have seen stories about pro gun students who were in the school during the shooting who were rejected from participating in the discussion because of they would not ask CNN's questions.


I saw the interview Tucker Carlson did with one of those students.
He sent CNN what was essentially a speech and they managed to cut it down to one question which they then re-worded.

It's not only controlling and a betrayal of an obvious bias in the network but it's incredibly condescending to the people involved too.
They were there when the shooting happened, and yet CNN thinks that it knows better what questions should be asked about that shooting?

Then he goes on to ask Marco Rubio to no longer accept money from the NRA. Rubio explains what he will still accept money, and the crowd boo's at him


I think the Marco Rubio NRA donation question was a good one.
His explanation makes sense logically - "I accept donations from anyone because they buy into my ideas, I don't buy into theirs" - but we all know that political favors are a real thing, and that the NRA does have a lot of control over what happens when it comes to gun legislation.

Politicians shouldn't have to tailor their answers to fit whoever they are speaking to. That isn't different to Hillary having 'private and public positions' on issues.
They should just say whatever they would say to their buddy asking them the same question in a bar because the vast majority of them aren't Machiavellian enough to get away with being dishonest.

As for the biased news discussion. I tend to stay as far away from TV news as possible and read the articles instead.
Outlets seem to make articles more balanced because it's easier for people to see flaws and bias when it's in writing compared to when it's spoken (unless you're Alex Jones or on Buzzfeed where it's blatant either way.)

Any time I see these types of events though, the term 'kayfabe' comes to mind.

Great topic, hope to see more.
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Cygnet wrote One thing i've started doing in the past 3 years is not taking the news seriously. I pinpoint statistics and leave the opinions out of my thoughts.

Too many news outlets are just huge opinionated propaganda sites. They push a certain agenda that fits what they want. News doesn't care about me or you, its a business, and they will use all the resources they have to sway the public opinion to fit what they want. What do they want? Money. & politics play a huge role in it too. A certain party with be in favor of a certain news outlet and will funnel money into that news organization to sway public interest in said political figure. It's disgusting.

Stop watching CNN, FOX, and any other major news outlet. You want real news for now on? Distinguish opinions and factual information as you read, and read from multiple sites. Create your own narrative based on the factual evidence you found, don't let others create a narrative for you.


This just made me laugh, I'm not going to say anymore.

But, back on topic. CNN is Clinton News Network, it isn't even trusted unless you're 18+ and have no education.
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