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Hey, not sure why but I think my CPU has started it's downhill life cycle, hitting 100% in almost every game, need some recommendations on a Mobo + CPU (Doesn't have to be a combo) just something that's compatible with the rest of my parts. I'd prefer a CPU with a 1151 socket, please.
(Also, yes I know these temps are high, cleaning out my case tomorrow. )

Would prefer to spend anything less than $350 USD.

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Anyone who can help me out, I can give out rep if that's an incentive nowadays.

Thanks.
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350 won't get you more then an AMD Ryzen, I paid 319 for my i7 so its gonna be pretty hard to upgrade that unless you got a new motherboard thats not lga 1151 socket,
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BigTunaDaBoss wrote 350 won't get you more then an AMD Ryzen, I paid 319 for my i7 so its gonna be pretty hard to upgrade that unless you got a new motherboard thats not lga 1151 socket,


I'm mostly looking for an i5, just not sure what to pair with my ram, gpu, etc just to be sure there's no conflictions with the rest of my parts.

What budget would you recommend?
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Your GPU, PSU, Case, and SSD/HDD will work.

Going to a LGA1151, the mother boards only support DDR4 RAM.

So you will have to purchase new RAM, which will run you about $160 to replace your 16gb.

This is what I'd recommend since you would like an i5.

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CPU: Intel - Core i5-7600K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor ($221.69 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock - Z270 Killer SLI/ac ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Flare X 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($164.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $516.66
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Skylake and Kaby Lake make no sense, so if you're sticking with Intel, Coffee Lake is your upgrade route. This means you're going to need a Z370 motherboard if you're overclocking, or wait for H310/B360 motherboard if you're not overclocking. Also, you'll need to buy DDR4 RAM which sucks because you don't want to go from 16GB to 8GB, but DDR4 is stupid expensive currently. It would be useful if we had some more info, like when your CPU is hitting 100% and whether you're limited by core/thread count or clock speed, but it doesn't really matter since it looks like Coffee Lake is really your only option for an upgrade, so it's just about getting the best you can within budget with CFL. You could get an i5-8400 for about $180 if you don't care about overclocking, or an 8600k for $250. 16GB DDR4 for about $160. So that would put you right around your $350 budget with the locked CPU, or $50 over with the 8600k and that doesn't even include a motherboard yet, which is at least another $100 currently($50-60 if you aren't going to be overclocking and wait for H310/B360 chipsets)

Do NOT go 7600k. Like I said, Kaby Lake makes no sense. It'll barely be an improvement over your 3570k.
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13 wrote Skylake and Kaby Lake make no sense, so if you're sticking with Intel, Coffee Lake is your upgrade route. This means you're going to need a Z370 motherboard if you're overclocking, or wait for H310/B360 motherboard if you're not overclocking. Also, you'll need to buy DDR4 RAM which sucks because you don't want to go from 16GB to 8GB, but DDR4 is stupid expensive currently. It would be useful if we had some more info, like when your CPU is hitting 100% and whether you're limited by core/thread count or clock speed, but it doesn't really matter since it looks like Coffee Lake is really your only option for an upgrade, so it's just about getting the best you can within budget with CFL. You could get an i5-8400 for about $180 if you don't care about overclocking, or an 8600k for $250. 16GB DDR4 for about $160. So that would put you right around your $350 budget with the locked CPU, or $50 over with the 8600k and that doesn't even include a motherboard yet, which is at least another $100 currently($50-60 if you aren't going to be overclocking and wait for H310/B360 chipsets)

Do NOT go 7600k. Like I said, Kaby Lake makes no sense. It'll barely be an improvement over your 3570k.


I don't bother with overclocking, I purchased this CPU back in 2013, someone told me to get the CPU unlocked so he recommended me the 3570k, even though I had no idea what the unlocked vs locked CPU meant back then.

Either way, I don't plan to overclock at all. But I've just seen it spike for no reason in games, it usually averages around 80% usage, but most of the time I see it at 100% usage, (also have been seeing it from my GPU as well) even on low settings it stays at that 80%+ threshold, so I'm not sure if there's some driver issues to sort out, but I'm not entirely sure what the problem may lie.

Out of games my CPU is at 15-18% usage, in games, it's always 80%+, no matter what.
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What's wrong with high usage? Performance has to be bound by something.

Reconsider overclocking. Coolers are cheap and your board is capable.
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r00t wrote What's wrong with high usage? Performance has to be bound by something.

Reconsider overclocking. Coolers are cheap and your board is capable.


Of course, but it just seemed weird that it spiked up out of nowhere, used to have no problems gaming, but it just seemed odd, where it's at 95-100% usage on a lot of games that I used to play and have no problems with, is all. So I thought it was time to upgrade to a new unit.

And I don't feel like I know enough about overclocking to utilize it, perhaps I can do some research on the matter, but I've only heard that it wears down your CPU quite a bit faster, so I just never bothered with it, but maybe in the near future that'll change.
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r00t wrote What's wrong with high usage? Performance has to be bound by something.

Reconsider overclocking. Coolers are cheap and your board is capable.


Of course, but it just seemed weird that it spiked up out of nowhere, used to have no problems gaming, but it just seemed odd, where it's at 95-100% usage on a lot of games that I used to play and have no problems with, is all. So I thought it was time to upgrade to a new unit.

And I don't feel like I know enough about overclocking to utilize it, perhaps I can do some research on the matter, but I've only heard that it wears down your CPU quite a bit faster, so I just never bothered with it, but maybe in the near future that'll change.

The basics are that you set the voltage offset then increase the clock speed until you find the limit at which it is unstable.

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Degradation is mostly a myth. By the time the CPU has degraded because of overclocking throughout its life, it will be so old that it would have been replaced years earlier. For example, I have a 3570K that I've run at 4.8 GHz since it was new. Last year, I dropped it to 4.7 because the circuits have degraded slightly over six years. Extra wear from overclocking has a negligible effect over the USEFUL life of the CPU.
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