i'm 18 and have been working out for several years and always heard from everyone who is 20-25 to keep bulking through your teens, it's alot easier to get stronger with so much testosterone in your body.
I know the want for abs lol, but for me personally I always wanted to be stronger and just look all around bigger. Keep bulking.

-Bart wrote

PEDS wrote just try and keep bulking man, do you train abs or core?

I actually don't haha! I need to start , I just keep telling myself that it gets done with squats and bench etc haha

haha, yeah i can tell, work them out for a while and build that core up and get abs maybe, and when your done and you wont need to work abs as out much anymore.

-Busolini- wrote why not both?

you can gain muscle while getting lean. its all about diet my man.

how do you think body builders do it? those guys get YUGE while getting lean.

80% diet, 20% exercise

you can do heavy weight workouts and get that massive pump and also have a strict diet.

it'll work. i promise

yeah bodybuilders can do it because they take steroids., i'd nearly say 80% workouts and 20% diets

In all honesty is 100% workout , 100% diet. If your not hitting you macros or not training hard nothing will change.

Motivational wrote

-Busolini- wrote why not both?

you can gain muscle while getting lean. its all about diet my man.

how do you think body builders do it? those guys get YUGE while getting lean.

80% diet, 20% exercise

you can do heavy weight workouts and get that massive pump and also have a strict diet.

it'll work. i promise

It's impossible to gain muscle and lose fat. Either you're in a caloric surplus (you're eating more calories than your body needs) which will cause you to gain muscle and fat (bulking) or you're in a caloric defecit and your body is using fat, muscle and tissue to make up for the lack of calories (cutting). There's a logical reason to why bodybuilders have off-season and on season and why people bulk during the winter to gain muscle and cut during the summer for definition.

Bodybuilders can get huge and lean because they're taking 100x the amount of hormomes that the average man has which allows them to build muscle far faster and effectively. I don't see why OP would do heavy weight workouts either when he''s training for size, he should be doing reps of 8-12 and working on hypertrophy as opposed to gaining strength.

Not trying to be an asshole but posts like these really annoy me, just had no scientific backing or logic and it's totally based on your opinion.

OP it just depends on what you want, more definition or more muscle? Since it's coming near the end of summer, you're probably better off doing a slow bulk and then cutting down after IMO.

funny that you say that because I myself have been losing fat and gaining muscle.

it's not impossible. It's quite simple actually. Yes, i understand everyone's body is different and works differently, but being around other people who have done it, which encouraged me to do the same, it's NOT impossible. nothing is impossible especially in the gym. That word should never be used when it comes to bettering yourself.

you prove good points. and i appreciate you challenging what I said.

but it's possible. right diet and right workout will get it done

PEDS wrote

-Busolini- wrote why not both?

you can gain muscle while getting lean. its all about diet my man.

how do you think body builders do it? those guys get YUGE while getting lean.

80% diet, 20% exercise

you can do heavy weight workouts and get that massive pump and also have a strict diet.

it'll work. i promise

yeah bodybuilders can do it because they take steroids., i'd nearly say 80% workouts and 20% diets

okay, you say 80% workout 20% diet,

do your workouts and then not have a decent diet.

YOU WONT GET THE RESULTS YOU WANT AS QUICK AS YOU WANT

you can literally do all the workout you want, if you arent replenishing your body the way you should be, you're just hurting yourself more than you are helping.

your muscles need protein and carbs to replenish and rebuild. if youre putting in empty calories and BS food, youre body will not rebuild the way it should be and you'll not be benefiting to the level that you should be.

-Busolini- wrote funny that you say that because I myself have been losing fat and gaining muscle.

it's not impossible. It's quite simple actually. Yes, i understand everyone's body is different and works differently, but being around other people who have done it, which encouraged me to do the same, it's NOT impossible. nothing is impossible especially in the gym. That word should never be used when it comes to bettering yourself.

you prove good points. and i appreciate you challenging what I said.

but it's possible. right diet and right workout will get it done

This is possibly the stupidest thing I've ever seen on this forum.

There's no possible way to tell if you've gained muscle or not, strength has absolutely nothing to do with it and some days you'll look bigger/smaller than other due to water weight and other variables. Looking in the mirror and thinking that you look bigger doesn't mean you've gained muscle. I'm talking about long term gains here, it's obvious that you can't lose fat and gain muscle or else as I said, there wouldn't be on season and off season for professional bodybuilders. Unless you're different to every other human on the planet and you're taking a DEXA scan everyweek to prove you're gaining muscle and losing fat, I call BS.

Nothing is impossible in the gym? Find me someone natural with a FFMI >27. Don't think it's going to happen. There are plenty of impossible things in the gym and outside the gym.

And everyone's body doesn't work differently? Unless you can't die then you're the exact same as every other human being, same organs, same basic principles with energy in - energy out etc. Metabolism changes but there's no superhumans, everyone is almost identical unless you've got some disease or disability that makes you unique.

Please tell me this diet if you're going to bother replying because you seem to talk about it but never go into detail. Is it carb loading? Keto? Fasting? No point telling OP about "the right diet" if you're not going to explain it.

You can gain muscle and lose fat if you're using steroids but even then it's still better to cut and bulk because the results will be terrible otherwise.

You need to be eating more calories than your body needs to gain weight, muscle is weight and so is fat. You literally cannot add on weight if you're eating in a caloric defecit, it's basic maths and survival. If you're giving your body less food than it needs then it's first reaction is to lose weight, not try to put on additional weight (ie muscle).

-Bart wrote

PEDS wrote just try and keep bulking man, do you train abs or core?

I actually don't haha! I need to start , I just keep telling myself that it gets done with squats and bench etc haha

I was in powerlifting for a little while but neglected my core workouts and accessory days and ended up getting a herniated disk. Im not linking the two directly but i would make sure you start training core. It cant hurt.

Motivational wrote

-Busolini- wrote funny that you say that because I myself have been losing fat and gaining muscle.

it's not impossible. It's quite simple actually. Yes, i understand everyone's body is different and works differently, but being around other people who have done it, which encouraged me to do the same, it's NOT impossible. nothing is impossible especially in the gym. That word should never be used when it comes to bettering yourself.

you prove good points. and i appreciate you challenging what I said.

but it's possible. right diet and right workout will get it done

This is possibly the stupidest thing I've ever seen on this forum.

There's no possible way to tell if you've gained muscle or not, strength has absolutely nothing to do with it and some days you'll look bigger/smaller than other due to water weight and other variables. Looking in the mirror and thinking that you look bigger doesn't mean you've gained muscle. I'm talking about long term gains here, it's obvious that you can't lose fat and gain muscle or else as I said, there wouldn't be on season and off season for professional bodybuilders. Unless you're different to every other human on the planet and you're taking a DEXA scan everyweek to prove you're gaining muscle and losing fat, I call BS.

Nothing is impossible in the gym? Find me someone natural with a FFMI >27. Don't think it's going to happen. There are plenty of impossible things in the gym and outside the gym.

And everyone's body doesn't work differently? Unless you can't die then you're the exact same as every other human being, same organs, same basic principles with energy in - energy out etc. Metabolism changes but there's no superhumans, everyone is almost identical unless you've got some disease or disability that makes you unique.

Please tell me this diet if you're going to bother replying because you seem to talk about it but never go into detail. Is it carb loading? Keto? Fasting? No point telling OP about "the right diet" if you're not going to explain it.

You can gain muscle and lose fat if you're using steroids but even then it's still better to cut and bulk because the results will be terrible otherwise.

You need to be eating more calories than your body needs to gain weight, muscle is weight and so is fat. You literally cannot add on weight if you're eating in a caloric defecit, it's basic maths and survival. If you're giving your body less food than it needs then it's first reaction is to lose weight, not try to put on additional weight (ie muscle).

whatever you say, pal