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Pashka wrote Loving all the detailed info, much appreciated, and your effort isn't wasted - you've convinced me to build what "13" suggested.
Just one more thing I ask of you, if you'd be willing: could you go over 13's list and tell me if anything is missing, such as cords or fans or anything else? (You've mentioned that the case has mounts for fans, leading me to suspect that fans don't come with the case - just want to make sure). If something is missing, please advise on what to get.

Lastly, as you so eloquently put, I'm going to be a "nitpick" when it comes to your claim about anything over 30C being hot, especially metal: nope, nope, nooope. Human body runs at 36.6C, so even 40-45C wouldn't feel hot, but rather just warm. But I'm just being a mild pain in the ass teehee ;)

Again, thanks for your time


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So this just has a little bit more pictures of the case and what it offers. If you click the 3 dots next to the 4 images below the main image, you'll see everything else.

It comes with 2, 120mm fans. One for the front, one for the back. These will work for now, however when you can, adding more fans will give you more cooling. The case in total can support 3 120mm fans in the front or 2 140mm fans in the front, 2 120/140mm on the top and 1 120mm in the back.

You could easily make the fans support more with the 140mm, as Fractal's Venturi fans has some cheeky little rubber mounts that can turn a 140mm fan, into a 140mm fan with mounting holes of 120mm. So really, you could mount all fans as 140mm, however Venturi fans are like $14 for one last time I checked. That's $84 if you're adding all 6 fans there so definitely something to wait or think about.

Case also apparently has RGB lighting in it, which I didn't know so that's a plus.

Everything is good to go with his build. He didn't include fans because 2 fans are installed with the case and adding more would break the budget. More isn't exactly important right now, but if your system is running hot due to the weather, adding more in would be fine. Also I cannot stress this enough, PLEASE be careful with the side panel. It is tempered glass. Please do not drop it, be rough with it or keep the case anywhere near your feet; at least the glass side near your feet. If it shatters you have to buy a new side panel and those can be expensive on it's own. Tempered glass shatters into a fine powder in most cases, so it won't damage your hardware but nothing is guaranteed. As long as you're careful with it, nothing will go wrong and it'll look visually pleasing.

30c metal is a little hotter than if I would be touching human skin lol. I could grab toast that is 48c but won't try to grab some metal at 48c right now, at least hold it for long. Metal transfers heat much quicker, so if you touched metal with your hand, you would feel the heat much quicker than you would say wood or plastic. Metal conducts more heat rapidly, think of those days where you get in your car and the metal of the seat belt touches your arm and it feels like Satan slapped you himself, even though the outside temp isn't as hot, the metal is; yes direct sunlight is also a factor but metal just conducts heat better than human skin does. Metal also gets hotter than the air temperature if the settings are right, be that direct sunlight, flame constantly on it or a piece of hardware using electricity to power it, producing it's own heat and trying to keep itself cool. With that said, touching metal and immediately removing your hand will cool quicker because the heat transfer is quicker in metal and because your hand is now cooling faster than the temperature of the air. If you touched say hot plastic, it would take longer for your hand to feel normal again because the heat transfer is slower, then pair in if the plastic is borderline melting and that's a whole new issue about how hot your skin becomes. 30c was a poor choice of words for me, I just put 30c because I didn't want to say 40 or higher and someone come and say "your idle temps are that high???"

Everyone is different though with their heat tolerance. Cooks can literally grab a tray out of the oven for a few seconds that was easily 140c, some people can wash dishes in water that is roughly around 80c, some people can't touch bread that is 20c, ect. My heat tolerance isn't the best for my whole body, living in Russia most of my life, I'm used to extreme cold, however when I was doing a lot of physical work and my palms were really calloused, I could grab a pan from the oven for 5 second at roughly 50c, now, I don't know, not going to test and possibly put myself out of gaming for a little lmfao

Anyways, best of luck with your build! If you're ever stuck with it, post back here or look through your manual. If things start getting frustrating, take a breather. No point in working on it when you're stressed out, if you work yourself up where you're sweating, just stop and calm down (remember, sweat has water, salt, sodium, chloride, ect, which are conductive; don't want that hitting your any hardware if you're getting yourself worked up.) If you have pets, keep them away. Don't drag your socks or feet on carpet and touch components. Always keep yourself grounded by touching the inside of the case before touching hardware and overall, take things slow. No need to try and speed rush your first build, I would rather take the time building it right, instead of rushing through, trying to power it on, having it not POST, and then wasting time trying to figure out where I went wrong
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