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Hello, so I'm getting new tires next weekend and I'm in between two kinds. I need assistance haha.

First Ill give the two tires.. and before you look at brand they are from the same company just one is like The brand and one is made by them just named otherwise..

http://www.ntb.com/tires/sku-detail/Cooper-Discoverer-RTX/235-70R16-106T-235-70-16/sku3940019.s?pageName=SLP&skuId=sku3940019


Alright, so this first tire has kind of a meaner look to it. Supposedly will be better for All terrain? I will only deal with snow on the streets. With the current deal at this supplier its buy 3 get 1 free. For that deal I also need to purchase a lifetime balance service. The total for getting the 4 tires and the Lifetime balance service comes to - $435.93 ($479.05 After Taxes) Also, just saw this has a 70$ mail-in rebate.. so it would be around $409.05 when its all said and done.. which is $118 dollars cheaper but it doesn't get the year alignment or road hazard warranty.. but one alignment cost $69.99 So, if I get the second tire with the deal I would have to minimum get two alignments in one year to make up for it.. which should be easy enough .. get one every month xD

Second Tire-
http://www.ntb.com/tires/sku-detail/Mesa-Mesa-A-P-II/265-70R17-115S-265-70-17/sku21622.s?pageName=SLP&skuId=sku21622


Alright, now this tire looks like a normal tire.. no rough rubber. Maybe less wheel howl? The special with this one is Buy 2 Get 2 Free. This one though I have to purchase alot with it.. Wheel alignments for 1 year, Road Hazard warranty for 1 year or 12,000 miles, and Lifetime Balancing.. The total for these 4 tires and all the services comes to - $477.93 ($527.22 After Tax)

Now, I would like it if you read it all and thoroughly haha. I think the second deal is better even though its $40 dollars more. Ill just have to get one Alignment to make up the price difference and Might aswell get 4 alignments to make up for the extra $200 dollars worth of services lol.. I was also told rugged tires don't necessarily do better in winter. They are both made by Cooper Tires or atleast thats what I was informed.. I can find the DOT number on the inside/outside wall and look it up and it should inform me of who makes them.

Let me know what you think down below. Thanks!

EDIT: Also, one last thing to throw on.. In one way the price matters because who wants to spend more money.. but secondly it will go on my card thru these guys so I'll have 6 months of interest free payments to get rid of it and I'll be putting 200$ down right away so in the long run it wont be so bad.. Maybe the second one is the better choice. It all really depends now on if the rougher rubber is worth it or not but like I said above, I was told it can even make it worse in winter.. and this trucks Main purpose is to get me from point A to B during winter.
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Ok, let's get started.

With tires, if you're trying to go cheap, look at Treadwright tires. These are re-treaded super cheap tires that generally are decent. If you want really good tires, look at Toyo (specifically the A/T's), and the Goodyear Duratracs. Yes these are more expensive but they will last longer and perform better.

As far as aggressive tires doing bad in winter, it really depends what you have. The reason you hear that is because generally aggressive tires are mud tire which are usually wider and have fewer, but bigger tread blocks. A standard 10" wide highway tire will do great in the rain, whereas a standard 12.5" wide Nitto Mud Grappler will so TERRIBLE (seriously, never buy these tires for road use). Usually all terrain tires are pretty good in winter. I would say that the Goodyear Duratracs are the best. They hook up nice offroad, and the tread blocks are small so they go through water good.

As for the two tires you chose, if I absolutely had to pick 1 or the other, it'd be the first one because Cooper is a known brand (though not a decent brand, they are known) whereas I've never heard of Mesa. The Cooper Discoverer idea is a good one though, if you'll notice there are a lot of Discoverer tires from Cooper ranging from highway to all terrain, to mud terrain. Personally though, I wouldn't put either of those tires on any truck of mine. Those are passenger rated tires, you have a light truck. Will they work? Yeah, sure they will, however the website says it has a 50k mile tread wear warranty, I can grantee you won't get that and they won't warranty it. That tire is meant to be on a passenger car, or van at max. You have a 5500 lbs truck, not a 3500-4k lbs van. You want ideally a light truck tire at the very least load range D, load range E would be preferable but not necessary.

The LT tires will cost a little more and use more gas because they are heavier, but they are the right tire for your vehicle. Some of these trucks come stock with P rated tires, but you won't get any sort of load out of them. [ Register or Signin to view external links. ] is what you want. The tire size you have is a 29" tire, this is 30.5". You can go up to a 33" comfortably, and up to a 35" before you need a lift on these trucks. Personally, I'd get a 33, but I understand that's more expensive.

[ Register or Signin to view external links. ] would be my other reccomendation to you. This one is a lot cheaper (close to what the tires you asked about are), it's LT rated, and almost the same size as the ones you listed (0.2" taller). This tire is a bad ass tire, it comes with a factory 65k mile tread wear warranty from the factory (not including the warranty from who ever you bought it from), does great off road and good in the rain.

Overall, I'd get the Duratrac if you can, but if that's out of the budget I understand. These Toyo's I guarantee you are 100000% better than the Coopers. I'm not saying Cooper is a bad brand, I'm just saying spend a little extra money on a lot of extra quality and you will be VERY happy with your purchase.
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002 wrote Ok, let's get started.

With tires, if you're trying to go cheap, look at Treadwright tires. These are re-treaded super cheap tires that generally are decent. If you want really good tires, look at Toyo (specifically the A/T's), and the Goodyear Duratracs. Yes these are more expensive but they will last longer and perform better.

As far as aggressive tires doing bad in winter, it really depends what you have. The reason you hear that is because generally aggressive tires are mud tire which are usually wider and have fewer, but bigger tread blocks. A standard 10" wide highway tire will do great in the rain, whereas a standard 12.5" wide Nitto Mud Grappler will so TERRIBLE (seriously, never buy these tires for road use). Usually all terrain tires are pretty good in winter. I would say that the Goodyear Duratracs are the best. They hook up nice offroad, and the tread blocks are small so they go through water good.

As for the two tires you chose, if I absolutely had to pick 1 or the other, it'd be the first one because Cooper is a known brand (though not a decent brand, they are known) whereas I've never heard of Mesa. The Cooper Discoverer idea is a good one though, if you'll notice there are a lot of Discoverer tires from Cooper ranging from highway to all terrain, to mud terrain. Personally though, I wouldn't put either of those tires on any truck of mine. Those are passenger rated tires, you have a light truck. Will they work? Yeah, sure they will, however the website says it has a 50k mile tread wear warranty, I can grantee you won't get that and they won't warranty it. That tire is meant to be on a passenger car, or van at max. You have a 5500 lbs truck, not a 3500-4k lbs van. You want ideally a light truck tire at the very least load range D, load range E would be preferable but not necessary.

The LT tires will cost a little more and use more gas because they are heavier, but they are the right tire for your vehicle. Some of these trucks come stock with P rated tires, but you won't get any sort of load out of them. [ Register or Signin to view external links. ] is what you want. The tire size you have is a 29" tire, this is 30.5". You can go up to a 33" comfortably, and up to a 35" before you need a lift on these trucks. Personally, I'd get a 33, but I understand that's more expensive.

[ Register or Signin to view external links. ] would be my other reccomendation to you. This one is a lot cheaper (close to what the tires you asked about are), it's LT rated, and almost the same size as the ones you listed (0.2" taller). This tire is a bad ass tire, it comes with a factory 65k mile tread wear warranty from the factory (not including the warranty from who ever you bought it from), does great off road and good in the rain.

Overall, I'd get the Duratrac if you can, but if that's out of the budget I understand. These Toyo's I guarantee you are 100000% better than the Coopers. I'm not saying Cooper is a bad brand, I'm just saying spend a little extra money on a lot of extra quality and you will be VERY happy with your purchase.


I want those wranglers.. I was even told to get wranglers.. The only issue Im encountering right now is I can only shop at this place due to my card.. I currently have 265/70R17 on my truck should I keep looking for that?

EDIT: I truly respect your post and trust me If I could afford the wranglers this saturday I would do it.. But I can't. On the whole weight issue.. shouldn't the MESAs work? they have a tire load of 112 (2469lbs or 9876lbs for the whole truck) if not I'll keep looking but yeah
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Understandable Wranglers are out of the picture, they were for me too lol.

As far as the Mesa and P rated tires, yes they will work and like I said manufacturers put P rated tires on trucks, but to me it's wrong. I'm the guy that will run a 10 ply tire meant for an F-350 on an F-150 though, but I just like to know that with something as important as tires, they will hold my truck with the max load plus some without issue.

Why is your card only letting you shop there if you don't mind my asking? If I were in your position, I wold STRONGLY consider getting the Toyo A/T's.
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002 wrote Understandable Wranglers are out of the picture, they were for me too lol.

As far as the Mesa and P rated tires, yes they will work and like I said manufacturers put P rated tires on trucks, but to me it's wrong. I'm the guy that will run a 10 ply tire meant for an F-350 on an F-150 though, but I just like to know that with something as important as tires, they will hold my truck with the max load plus some without issue.

Why is your card only letting you shop there if you don't mind my asking? If I were in your position, I wold STRONGLY consider getting the Toyo A/T's.


I can only shop there because its a card through that shop a NTB card.
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Also, if your tire size ends with 17, the first one will not fit. I'm sure you know this, but the last number is your wheel size. You can't put a tire meant for a 16" wheel onto a 17" wheel.

If I had to choose from that site, I'd go with [ Register or Signin to view external links. ] . Again, not a fan of P rated tires, but I hope you're not doing to your truck what I did with mine (trying to put in double the recommended payload regularly). I had these tires in a load range E 33" for a month or so and they were alright. They weren't as good as the Duratrac or the Toyo A/T but they were a quality tire.

I have nothing against Mesa, I've never hear of them or used them and to me, when it comes to tires you need quality because tires are one of the most important things on your vehicle.

If it were up to me in my situation (time wise), I'd buy a brand name tire for what ever your card limit it, sell them on Craigslist, and buy a set of Toyo A/T's, or save up for Duratracs.

Again, these are just my preferences with my limited knowledge of tires, other tires will work just fine, but these are just what I know and love (and in the case of Cooper hate, I'll let you know the name of the one I had, I can't remember what it was lol), and what I know is quality and others will like as well.
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002 wrote Also, if your tire size ends with 17, the first one will not fit. I'm sure you know this, but the last number is your wheel size. You can't put a tire meant for a 16" wheel onto a 17" wheel.

If I had to choose from that site, I'd go with [ Register or Signin to view external links. ] . Again, not a fan of P rated tires, but I hope you're not doing to your truck what I did with mine (trying to put in double the recommended payload regularly). I had these tires in a load range E 33" for a month or so and they were alright. They weren't as good as the Duratrac or the Toyo A/T but they were a quality tire.

I have nothing against Mesa, I've never hear of them or used them and to me, when it comes to tires you need quality because tires are one of the most important things on your vehicle.

If it were up to me in my situation (time wise), I'd buy a brand name tire for what ever your card limit it, sell them on Craigslist, and buy a set of Toyo A/T's, or save up for Duratracs.

Again, these are just my preferences with my limited knowledge of tires, other tires will work just fine, but these are just what I know and love (and in the case of Cooper hate, I'll let you know the name of the one I had, I can't remember what it was lol), and what I know is quality and others will like as well.


I will look at those tomorrow after work. My truck will not be towing anything at all. And for anything in the bed... maybe sand when winter comes. I won't be using my truck for truck duties
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