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FLAT EARTH | TRUE OR FALSE? [NEW VIDEOS & INFO 2017]
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This video should very well answer most if not all of your questions. In great detail also. I would expect you to watch the whole video before forming a final opinion.









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ODD TV very well explains the problems with mass deception, cognitive dissonance & false truth seekers.








Now, before criticizing, don't just deny the theory because you have grown up thinking we live on a globe. I will include sources of info, and my own thoughts.

Believe it or not there is a substantial amount of evidence to back up the flat earth theory.

Also, if you have already thought about denying the evidence and/or thinking about leaving this page. I would highly recommend reading all evidence before coming to a conclusion. Theres 2 sides to every story.




Now, to get this debate started, im going to say this.. All of NASAs 'photos' of the earth, show a perfect SPHERE.

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Nothing wrong with that 'photograph' right? Wrong. NASAs OFFICIAL archive states the earth is an OBLATE SPHEROID, not a perfect sphere.

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Yet, Neil DeGrasse Tyson, states the earth is 'pear shaped'.

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Which one is it? Pear shaped, an oblate spheroid or a perfect sphere. All supposedly 'credible' sources saying different things.




REMINDER: It is said, that Tyson is a Freemason, just like all of the astronauts that 'went to the moon'. All Masons are required to sign a 'contract', which swears secrecy about their collective knowledge.

Also, ask yourself this, why do we now only have to account for the Van Allen belts, but didn't have to when we actually 'went' to the moon?

ut, I will leave that topic for another time.





What am I getting at you ask? Well, just take a look at this.

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Now, hence how it bulges outwards at the equator. Because you can certainly NOT, see any type of bulge in the 'official image' of the Earth, posted by NASA. In fact, it is indistinguishable, from a perfect sphere.




My point is, NASA are blatantly lying, in your face. And the official image of the earth, is photoshopped, which NASAs own; Robert Simmons admits in an interview.



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Wow.
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Just, wow.
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I mean c'mon, really?! All 'official images' of the Earth. And yet the colours are changing and so is the landmass.

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How does this link in with the earth being flat you ask?

Quite simply because, the maps NASA provide are something like 80% accurate, give or take. I mean every single map they provide. To be honest, it probably is a lot less than 80%.

Now have a look at Gleason's depiction of the flat earth, released in 1892. Otherwise known as the Azimuthal Equidistant projection. It is still the most accurate map to date.

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Below is a more rough copy of the AE map, next to the United Nations official logo, notice how the AE map is in the background? Yeah I know, such a coincidence right..

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It is literally being smeared in your face, like a piece of sh*t.

To flat earth veterans, this stuff is the basics, so sorry if you haven't learned anything new today.




But seriously now, try looking at the horizon, its DEAD FLAT. NO CURVATURE. Hence the name: horizon... you know, a horizontal line . But sure, the earth is spherical.. Which leads me to my next explanation.




Just remember that some of Pythagoras' work, like the theorem for example. Is deemed incorrect. He may say 'it's round', but it doesn't mean anything.




Might i also point out that the Pythagorean 'proof' of curvature, and the explanation on why the horizon appears flat. Is unobservable, unmeasurable and also unrepeatable. Making it nothing more than a hypothesis with NO evidence to back it up.

When in reality, the flat horizon, on a flat earth model, can be measured, observed and repeated. Having actual observable and measureable evidence, moreover than Pyhtagorean, and you can do this by youself with the right equipment.




Due to the 'curvature of the earth', every 30 miles the curvature should drop about 600ft, working out at about 8 inches per mile. The measurements dramatically changing every mile, also. This is based on Pythagoras' theory that the Earth's circumference is 25,000 miles.

Which is deemed correct in this day and age. When in reality it is not.

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The only problem is, you can see the Chicago skyline, from the shore of lake Michigan. Which using Pythagorean measurements, would be well under the 'curvature' of the earth, and totally invisible. However it's clearly visible..

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Actually, there are many things that can be seen, when they should be under the supposed 'curvature'. Like the view of France from Dover in England. Which spans over 20 miles. Should be accoring to Pythagoras, 266 feet below the horizon. Hmm..

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Or like the NYC skyline for example, taken from over 20 miles out.

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To take it to extremes, this is 40 miles out. By now, that skyline should be about 1066 feet below the horizon. The buildings0 should also be showing a slight, slant some directions. Funny that..

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You get the point.




As for the Chicago skyline image, according to this guy, it's a superior mirage.. (By the way this is a different image, further proving it's nothing to do with the 'weather conditions')



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When actually, a superior mirage looks like this, with the horizon inverted.

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More cover up lies from the mainstream media.. Of course though, if a regular viewer see's it on the news, they won't bother questioning, why would they? After all they believe everything that comes out their mouth.




I remember someone mentioning something about, how the flat earth wouldn't work because of gravity. Let me point out, that gravity is nothing but a theory, always has been.

Density and buoyancy explain why things drop. If something weighs more than air, it falls. Something weighs less than air, it rises. Pretty simple science.

The force itself cannot be measured or proven authentically, making it nothing more than a theory.




This technique is used to film in the 'ISS' using a parabolic flight, which effectively simulates zero gravity. Bare in mind an aeroplane can only have a zero-g, nosediving period of 27 seconds. They have to morph the separate videos together, and make it look like one take. Like shown in the video below..

Mute audio if you have to. I found it pretty annoying.


The crew, explained how it was done below.

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In case you want to look for yourself, the article is below

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If you're wondering what I'm getting at, it is this. The technique used to shoot this video, making it look like it was shot in one take, when in actuality, there were several shots. They then, very smoothly morphed the clips together. All being 27 seconds long.

If a small band can do it, and make in unnoticeable, you can imagine the extent NASA could go to, to perfect this technique.




Back on topic..

I would also like to see you navigate the ocean using a globe, wouldn't work.. . Hence why radar essentially uses a flat earth map (Azimuthal Equidistant projection ~ north polar aspect). Only in a much smaller radius.




The same as GPS, does not work over some parts of the Ocean. Specifically because of certain flight paths they have to take. In order to make it appear as though GPS works overseas, on their model of the map.






Lastly. So far this is the best evidence I have seen yet, proving the sun is NOT 93 million miles away. Watch the whole video if you like, but for the best bit, skip to 2:30, watch the sun get further away.

(Ironic how the video was taken off YouTube...)



The sun is not going under or over the earth as it is meant to appear (us apparently orbiting the sun). Instead is simply circling above us, like shown on the time zone gif, then hitting the vanishing point. Just like a road.

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If you don't know what the vanishing point is, it is the point where perspective converges to a point of vanishing (hence the name). In this case, where the two parallel lines meet on the horizon.
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Ultimately, just remember, biblical explanations have been around longer than the theory of evolution.

Evolution is literally defining the opposite of the bibles claims. Lets face it though, if you can convince someone the the truth is Evolution (A), when the ACTUAL truth is the complete opposite (Z). It will be nearly impossible to convince the person that the truth is Z, because they're whole life they thought it was A.

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I suppose a good question would be, If I was to sail of the right hand side of the earth (if it was flat) how would I then appear at the left hand side without knowing it. Before you say well you can't "sail because of ice" well then apply it to walking.

People have been to these locations and not seen any dramatic change in gravity, let's assume the earth is flat with a perfect edge and gravity was in the center. It would become increasingly difficult to get to the edge as gravity would be pulling you back.

In fact when you are at the point of getting close to the edge it would be pretty much a shear drop.

I mean it makes a compelling argument an I'd like to see how you tackle it. Also maybe wrong section as this is maybe closer to a conspiracy.
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Larph wrote I suppose a good question would be, If I was to sail of the right hand side of the earth (if it was flat) how would I then appear at the left hand side without knowing it. Before you say well you can't "sail because of ice" well then apply it to walking.

People have been to these locations and not seen any dramatic change in gravity, let's assume the earth is flat with a perfect edge and gravity was in the center. It would become increasingly difficult to get to the edge as gravity would be pulling you back.

In fact when you are at the point of getting close to the edge it would be pretty much a shear drop.

I mean it makes a compelling argument an I'd like to see how you tackle it. Also maybe wrong section as this is maybe closer to a conspiracy.


Nice argument, the only thing is. There are 2 theory's that can disprove this, and don't get mixed up thinking I believe any of them, I am only hypothesizing. Still doesn't mean they're not possible though.

1. According to SOME flat earthers, gravity does not exist. However, there are apparently two spiralling vacuums, one above and one below. Making a direct equilibrium in the middle. One of the so called vacuums can be seen over a period of time, its called the Coriolis effect and makes a pretty sight. You have probably heard of it, if you haven't. Google it, its pretty cool actually.




2. Quite simply, the plane (speaking in flat earth terms) is larger than believed, which would make the gravitational pull have a wider radius. It would actually explain why Admiral Bird, claimed to have found a land mass larger than the U.S beyond the ice sheets.

Linked in with that theory is that we're interconnected with other planes, and we are simply one of many. This interconnected theory would actually work, with the ice sheets/wall as well. It is simply a barrier for our plane.

Whats quite funny is, in Game of Thrones, there is a huge ice barrier around their world. I know its only a TV show but still.. and I have never watched it, I saw it in a documentary. So if anyone wants to say that's where I got it from. You're wrong.




Out of the two, I am more intrigued by the second one. Simply because the Coriolis effect can be explained, while theory number two is intact. Meaning they can both exist with reasonable explanations.




Also, im aware it fits into conspiracy more. I have a post in that section and I have also been debating with people in that section for over an hour. Ahah!
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The earth scientifically cannot be a perfect circle, nor can it be flat. I don't have the time, nor the crayons to explain this to you so I'll go over it briefly. See how your house is taller than the road, yet the tree (may or may not be) is taller than your house? There ya go, can't have a perfect circle when things aren't at the same level.

As for the bulge, come one, can you not think of one thing? The earth is spinning. 71% of the earth is water. When a ball of water spins, yeah it's not going to be a perfect circle. Not only that but the earths core to the best of our knowledge is in a liquid state. Not only that, but all the land masses look different. As the world turns, you see new land masses even though you're at the same spot in earth.

If you really think the earth is flat, tell me how the water isn't flowing off the sides. Take a flat piece of wood metal, what ever you like (your theory of a flat earth), put some dirt on it (land) then poor some water on the flat object. Where'd the water go? If your small scale experiment has no water, how could the earth have water? I'm giving it to you easy, I didn't even tell you to spin it. The answer is that the earth is a sphere, and has a gravitational pull that keeps the water attached to it. You could go into it more and look at surface tension and all that, but we're going with the basics as my crayon has just snapped.
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002 wrote The earth scientifically cannot be a perfect circle, nor can it be flat. I don't have the time, nor the crayons to explain this to you so I'll go over it briefly. See how your house is taller than the road, yet the tree (may or may not be) is taller than your house? There ya go, can't have a perfect circle when things aren't at the same level.

As for the bulge, come one, can you not think of one thing? The earth is spinning. 71% of the earth is water. When a ball of water spins, yeah it's not going to be a perfect circle. Not only that but the earths core to the best of our knowledge is in a liquid state. Not only that, but all the land masses look different. As the world turns, you see new land masses even though you're at the same spot in earth.

If you really think the earth is flat, tell me how the water isn't flowing off the sides. Take a flat piece of wood metal, what ever you like (your theory of a flat earth), put some dirt on it (land) then poor some water on the flat object. Where'd the water go? If your small scale experiment has no water, how could the earth have water? I'm giving it to you easy, I didn't even tell you to spin it. The answer is that the earth is a sphere, and has a gravitational pull that keeps the water attached to it. You could go into it more and look at surface tension and all that, but we're going with the basics as my crayon has just snapped.


Sorry, that does not prove anything, whatsoever.. I really don't see your point if im honest.

The water doesn't fall off the edge because of the ice barrier around the sides, and your argument is valid, by the way.

Basically, supposedly, the Earth is spinning right. Well because its a 'sphere' different parts of the earth would have different speeds

If the earth was spinning 30 KM/s, then tell me why if you was at the top of the earth, and you got onto a plane to the equator, then got off that plane. You do not feel the slightest change in motion? But yet can get vertigo from looking upwards.

Ill tell you why, because we're not spinning, and it's totally absurd..

Buy a new crayon.

EDIT: I would like to point out, that it is believed the outer ice barrier, is Antarctica. Hence why it is not visible on the UN flag, also why you are not allowed to freely travel beyond a certain point. If you do however. You will literally be shot on sight. Yet no one owns Antarctica, yeah I call horsesh*t.
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okay do you genuinely believe this
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urBeats wrote okay do you genuinely believe this


If you saw in my post, i said it's highly likely. It's a debate and im asking what YOU think.

If you want to know, I don't know what to believe, except the fact the earth is defiantly not a perfect sphere.
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Schwarz wrote
urBeats wrote okay do you genuinely believe this


If you saw in my post, i said it's highly likely. It's a debate and im asking what YOU think.

If you want to know, I don't know what to believe, except the fact the earth is defiantly not a perfect sphere.



I don't believe the world is flat because we have already proven its not flat.

but I also don't believe its a perfect sphere
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urBeats wrote
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urBeats wrote okay do you genuinely believe this


If you saw in my post, i said it's highly likely. It's a debate and im asking what YOU think.

If you want to know, I don't know what to believe, except the fact the earth is defiantly not a perfect sphere.



I don't believe the world is flat because we have already proven its not flat.

but I also don't believe its a perfect sphere


How have we proven the Earth is indeed, not flat. Link me to your source please
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002 wrote The earth scientifically cannot be a perfect circle, nor can it be flat. I don't have the time, nor the crayons to explain this to you so I'll go over it briefly. See how your house is taller than the road, yet the tree (may or may not be) is taller than your house? There ya go, can't have a perfect circle when things aren't at the same level.

As for the bulge, come one, can you not think of one thing? The earth is spinning. 71% of the earth is water. When a ball of water spins, yeah it's not going to be a perfect circle. Not only that but the earths core to the best of our knowledge is in a liquid state. Not only that, but all the land masses look different. As the world turns, you see new land masses even though you're at the same spot in earth.

If you really think the earth is flat, tell me how the water isn't flowing off the sides. Take a flat piece of wood metal, what ever you like (your theory of a flat earth), put some dirt on it (land) then poor some water on the flat object. Where'd the water go? If your small scale experiment has no water, how could the earth have water? I'm giving it to you easy, I didn't even tell you to spin it. The answer is that the earth is a sphere, and has a gravitational pull that keeps the water attached to it. You could go into it more and look at surface tension and all that, but we're going with the basics as my crayon has just snapped.


Sorry, that does not prove anything, whatsoever.. I really don't see your point if im honest.

The water doesn't fall off the edge because of the ice barrier around the sides, and your argument is valid, by the way.

Basically, supposedly, the Earth is spinning right. Well because its a 'sphere' different parts of the earth would have different speeds

If the earth was spinning 30 KM/s, then tell me why if you was at the top of the earth, and you got onto a plane to the equator, then got off that plane. You do not feel the slightest change in motion? But yet can get vertigo from looking upwards.

Ill tell you why, because we're not spinning, and it's totally absurd..

Buy a new crayon.

EDIT: I would like to point out, that it is believed the outer ice barrier, is Antarctica. Hence why it is not visible on the UN flag, also why you are not allowed to freely travel beyond a certain point. If you do however. You will literally be shot on sight. Yet no one owns Antarctica, yeah I call horsesh*t.


This isn't minecraft, there is not ice all around the earth rofl. You can hop in a boat, leave from Ecuador, sail to Indonesia, walk to the other side, sail to Samolia, walk through there, Kenya, Tanzania, the Congo, and Gabon, then sail again from Gabon to Brazil, and walk through Brazil, and guess where you are? Back in Ecuador, where you started. How could this be if the earth was flat?

Do you know why we can't feel the earth moving? Get in a car that is at a sustained speed, you can't feel that either. You can see it and feel the bumps, but if it was 100% quiet, no bumps and your eyes where closed, you wouldn't think you where moving. You want to know how you can know you where moving? If you flew from Seattle, Washington to Portland, Maine, it would take you 7 hours. Suppose that your plane left at 7:30, you wouldn't get there until 6:30 at night. How could that be? The earth is SPINNING around the sun, so to make sure everyones 11AM has the same sun light, we made time zones.
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