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Warning: Please do not take offence to this, it is just to make you think as I'm fascinated by what happened during WW1 and WW2.




Firstly here is some background information of Holocaust otherwise known as 'The Final Solution':

The Nazi policy of exterminating European Jews and other races deemed 'inappropriate'. Introduced by Heinrich Himmler and administered by Adolf Eichmann, the policy resulted in the murder of 6 million Jews and millions of others in concentration camps between 1941 and 1945.





After all these years from the war and as the world found out of the atrocities that the Nazi government did some people believe that Hitler never knew about what was going on with the 'Final Solution'. You must be thinking now that of-course Hitler knew he was their leader, however historians have started to wonder wether he really knew:


'The Final Solution' deniers argue (which is a few minority):


That if the genocide of the Jews was an official policy of the Nazi government then a document signed by Adolf Hitler ordering their annihilation would have been found by now. There is a document signed by Hitler authorising the euthanasia program. How come there is no Hitler-signed order authorising the 'Final Solution'?
David Irving has "offered a thousand pounds to any person who could produce even one wartime document showing explicitly what Hitler knew, for example, of Auschwitz . On his web site Irving states that "nobody has yet claimed the widely publicised $1,000 reward . . . for even one page of wartime contemporary evidence that Hitler was even aware of Auschwitz ('the Holocaust'), let alone gave the order for the Final Solution."
John Weir, writing on CODOH [Committee for Open Debate on the Holocaust], a prominent American Holocaust denial web site, argues that if such an order was issued "it would have been located... Since none has been found, the conclusion is inescapable.





What most historians and normal people think:

It is very unlikely that Hitler ever signed such an order for the following reasons:
Hitler and the Nazi regime were very secretive about the 'Final Solution.' Hitler didn't want to leave an evidence trail that would inflame his own population or the leadership of other countries.
Heinrich Himmler, the head of the SS, in a speech given at Poznan (Posen, Poland) to a meeting of Major Generals on October 4, 1943, acknowledged how secret the Final Solution was: "We will never speak of it publicly. . . I mean the evacuation of the Jews, the extermination of the Jewish race. ... The Jewish race is being exterminated... that's quite clear, it's in our program elimination of the Jews and we're doing it, exterminating them . . . This is a page of glory in our history which has never been written and is never to be written . . ."





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Just to let you guys know I completely disagree with Hitler not knowing. I Just want to hear responses :coffee:


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I think he knew, Hitler wasn't exactly a typical 'do it all by the books' leader.
These Hitler sympathizers will only accept written evidence, and won't take into account other logical arguments which may have little physical evidence to back them up.
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Oberyn wrote I think he knew, Hitler wasn't exactly a typical 'do it all by the books' leader.
These Hitler sympathizers will only accept written evidence, and won't take into account other logical arguments which may have little physical evidence to back them up.


I agree mostly just historians looking for a way to get some fame.
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Hitler didn't want a paper trail for the "Final Solution" so if there was a paper trail is was most likely burnt before someone could get there eyes on it but I do think he knew about the "Final Solution" tho
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Everything points to him ordering it.

I once read that Hitler wanted to be an artist and that he applied to art school and he got denied, the headmaster was a Jew.

^^^In no way am I saying that caused the Holocaust just a fun fact.
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Tricks wrote Everything points to him ordering it.

I once read that Hitler wanted to be an artist and that he applied to art school and he got denied, the headmaster was a Jew.

^^^In no way am I saying that caused the Holocaust just a fun fact.


You are right he did want to be an artist I'm pretty sure he has done a couple paintings

But yeah no doubt about it he knew
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Tricks wrote Everything points to him ordering it.

I once read that Hitler wanted to be an artist and that he applied to art school and he got denied, the headmaster was a Jew.

^^^In no way am I saying that caused the Holocaust just a fun fact.


I don't believe Hitler personally felt all Jewish people were responsible I think he knew he needed something to blame and used it as fuel for people to create a common hate.
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Hitlers roommate in Vienna said that he was extremely anti-semitic. He genuinely believed that the Jews lead to the defeat of Germany in World War 1. His dreams of becoming a artist was crushed by a Jewish art instructor, who rejected his application to join the Vienna Art School; Hitler eventually became homeless, and blamed greedy, selfish Jews for his poor financial situation.

In Mein Kampf, he wrote extensively of a "final solution", striving for a totalitarian state, which made up of only one race, the Aryan race (blonde hair and blue eyes). During the Great Depression of Germany, he blamed Jewish immigrants for the extremely high unemployment percentage.

I doubt that this had an impact, but the doctor who treated Hitlers terminally ill mother, was a Jew. Apparently, Hitler gave him special treatment during the Holocaust, and the doctor survived the ruthless genocide.
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Its not only Jews though, "disabled people, Gay, black" anyone that was useless or a waste in his eyes should be sent to a camp to be slaves and die.. this was his plan from the start to get rid of a "%" of people that they discriminated and looked down on.. Plus what everyone else is saying he didn't like
Jewish people from personal grudges and reasons (the Art teacher) thinking that it was jews that lead to them loosing the WW1 etc...

I think Himmler was more to blame than Hitler
Heinrich Himmler Facts 2: Holocaust
One of the tragedies for Jewish people was in the era of Holocaust. The one who was responsible for this tragedy was not only Hitler but also Himmler. He was considered as the most powerful men in Nazi.
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Maybe he didn't knew, but he probably did..
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