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Tell me your thoughts, i think it was staged for numerous reasons, for example the flag waves with no wind to move it. As well as stars not being visible when there are no gases or atmosphere to block them etc. I also think that if we have landed on the moon why haven't we been back since 1972? And why would someone play golf on the moon? priorities at its finest. why would we try to inhabit people on Mars and not on the Moon? why wouldn't we go to the Moon first and then take it to the next level? what's wrong with the moon, nothing. so why stay away from it?


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Yes we did.

There are reflectors on the Moon used to measure the distance between the Earth and Moon.
They were put there during the Apollo 11 mission and can be - and are - seen and used by amateur astronomers all over the world.
It's called the Lunar Laser Ranging Experiment.

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Irrefutable proof that we did land on the Moon, unless those reflectors got up there in some other way.

Why not colonize the Moon before Mars? The gravity on the Moon is such that botany would be a futile pursuit, as would human procreation.
Mars has a small amount of atmosphere which could be increased with terraforming, whereas the Moon has none.
The gravity on Mars is still lower than Earth's but not as low as the Moon's, botany is still a feasible pursuit on Mars.
Basically, Mars is closer to Earth in terms of its environment than the Moon is. Humans would be much better suited to living long term on Mars than they would on the Moon.


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Nocebo wroteYes we did.

There are reflectors on the Moon used to measure the distance between the Earth and Moon.
They were put there during the Apollo 11 mission and can be - and are - seen and used by amateur astronomers all over the world.
It's called the Lunar Laser Ranging Experiment.

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Irrefutable proof that we did land on the Moon, unless those reflectors got up there in some other way.


there are theories of the moon being a giant hologram printed into the sky, i'm not that crazy though. And have you seen photos where the shadows are coming from multiple directions, how? As well could the reflectors have been sent by the rocket they claimed the astronauts were in? and that rocket went to the moon and dropped the reflectors? And the astronauts were in a studio with fake props of the reflectors?
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TaDeDraGz wrote
Nocebo wroteYes we did.

There are reflectors on the Moon used to measure the distance between the Earth and Moon.
They were put there during the Apollo 11 mission and can be - and are - seen and used by amateur astronomers all over the world.
It's called the Lunar Laser Ranging Experiment.

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Irrefutable proof that we did land on the Moon, unless those reflectors got up there in some other way.


there are theories of the moon being a giant hologram printed into the sky, i'm not that crazy though. And have you seen photos where the shadows are coming from multiple directions, how? As well could the reflectors have been sent by the rocket they claimed the astronauts were in? and that rocket went to the moon and dropped the reflectors? And the astronauts were in a studio with fake props of the reflectors?


Even on Earth the bumps and hills in a picture affect which directions the shadows fall in.
Not to mention that the lunar lander was covered with reflective plates.
I would simply say that the pictures of the astronauts on the Moon prove that astronauts were on the Moon.

But if you've already said that NASA were capable of creating a rocket and lander which could get to the Moon and back, why couldn't they also create suits capable of sustaining the lives of the astronauts for the same amount of time?
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Nocebo wrote
TaDeDraGz wrote
Nocebo wroteYes we did.

There are reflectors on the Moon used to measure the distance between the Earth and Moon.
They were put there during the Apollo 11 mission and can be - and are - seen and used by amateur astronomers all over the world.
It's called the Lunar Laser Ranging Experiment.

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Irrefutable proof that we did land on the Moon, unless those reflectors got up there in some other way.


there are theories of the moon being a giant hologram printed into the sky, i'm not that crazy though. And have you seen photos where the shadows are coming from multiple directions, how? As well could the reflectors have been sent by the rocket they claimed the astronauts were in? and that rocket went to the moon and dropped the reflectors? And the astronauts were in a studio with fake props of the reflectors?


Even on Earth the bumps and hills in a picture affect which directions the shadows fall in.
Not to mention that the lunar lander was covered with reflective plates.
I would simply say that the pictures of the astronauts on the Moon prove that astronauts were on the Moon.

But if you've already said that NASA were capable of creating a rocket and lander which could get to the Moon and back, why couldn't they also create suits capable of sustaining the lives of the astronauts for the same amount of time?


i don't think they were capable of making a rocket, maybe it was a miniature rocket and moon and they secretly got a special effects team to do their job. Also, there is a picture of of an astronaut and the reflection in the helmet shows a piece of rope that is not necessary to be there, were the astronauts being pulled up by rope/thin string to create the low gravity effect?
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TaDeDraGz wrote
Nocebo wrote
TaDeDraGz wrote
Nocebo wroteYes we did.

There are reflectors on the Moon used to measure the distance between the Earth and Moon.
They were put there during the Apollo 11 mission and can be - and are - seen and used by amateur astronomers all over the world.
It's called the Lunar Laser Ranging Experiment.

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Irrefutable proof that we did land on the Moon, unless those reflectors got up there in some other way.


there are theories of the moon being a giant hologram printed into the sky, i'm not that crazy though. And have you seen photos where the shadows are coming from multiple directions, how? As well could the reflectors have been sent by the rocket they claimed the astronauts were in? and that rocket went to the moon and dropped the reflectors? And the astronauts were in a studio with fake props of the reflectors?


Even on Earth the bumps and hills in a picture affect which directions the shadows fall in.
Not to mention that the lunar lander was covered with reflective plates.
I would simply say that the pictures of the astronauts on the Moon prove that astronauts were on the Moon.

But if you've already said that NASA were capable of creating a rocket and lander which could get to the Moon and back, why couldn't they also create suits capable of sustaining the lives of the astronauts for the same amount of time?


i don't think they were capable of making a rocket, maybe it was a miniature rocket and moon and they secretly got a special effects team to do their job. Also, there is a picture of of an astronaut and the reflection in the helmet shows a piece of rope that is not necessary to be there, were the astronauts being pulled up by rope/thin string to create the low gravity effect?


If you're talking about this picture, it was taken during the Apollo 12 mission, not the Apollo 11 mission.

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But even if it was taken during the Apollo 11 mission, do you not think that the special effects team would have painstakingly analyzed every single photo for any flaws?
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Nocebo wrote
TaDeDraGz wrote
Nocebo wrote
TaDeDraGz wrote
Nocebo wroteYes we did.

There are reflectors on the Moon used to measure the distance between the Earth and Moon.
They were put there during the Apollo 11 mission and can be - and are - seen and used by amateur astronomers all over the world.
It's called the Lunar Laser Ranging Experiment.

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Irrefutable proof that we did land on the Moon, unless those reflectors got up there in some other way.


there are theories of the moon being a giant hologram printed into the sky, i'm not that crazy though. And have you seen photos where the shadows are coming from multiple directions, how? As well could the reflectors have been sent by the rocket they claimed the astronauts were in? and that rocket went to the moon and dropped the reflectors? And the astronauts were in a studio with fake props of the reflectors?


Even on Earth the bumps and hills in a picture affect which directions the shadows fall in.
Not to mention that the lunar lander was covered with reflective plates.
I would simply say that the pictures of the astronauts on the Moon prove that astronauts were on the Moon.

But if you've already said that NASA were capable of creating a rocket and lander which could get to the Moon and back, why couldn't they also create suits capable of sustaining the lives of the astronauts for the same amount of time?


i don't think they were capable of making a rocket, maybe it was a miniature rocket and moon and they secretly got a special effects team to do their job. Also, there is a picture of of an astronaut and the reflection in the helmet shows a piece of rope that is not necessary to be there, were the astronauts being pulled up by rope/thin string to create the low gravity effect?


If you're talking about this picture, it was taken during the Apollo 12 mission, not the Apollo 11 mission.

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But even if it was taken during the Apollo 11 mission, do you not think that the special effects team would have painstakingly analyzed every single photo for any flaws?


I don't believe we've ever landed on the Moon, not humans anyway. And special effect teams could have missed that object (rope) and i don't think they could brush something away like we can now on photo shop. Also why do we need suits and not just an oxygen mask/tank, why cant we reveal skin outside of our atmosphere?
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TaDeDraGz wrote
Nocebo wrote
TaDeDraGz wrote
Nocebo wrote
TaDeDraGz wrote
Nocebo wroteYes we did.

There are reflectors on the Moon used to measure the distance between the Earth and Moon.
They were put there during the Apollo 11 mission and can be - and are - seen and used by amateur astronomers all over the world.
It's called the Lunar Laser Ranging Experiment.

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Irrefutable proof that we did land on the Moon, unless those reflectors got up there in some other way.


there are theories of the moon being a giant hologram printed into the sky, i'm not that crazy though. And have you seen photos where the shadows are coming from multiple directions, how? As well could the reflectors have been sent by the rocket they claimed the astronauts were in? and that rocket went to the moon and dropped the reflectors? And the astronauts were in a studio with fake props of the reflectors?


Even on Earth the bumps and hills in a picture affect which directions the shadows fall in.
Not to mention that the lunar lander was covered with reflective plates.
I would simply say that the pictures of the astronauts on the Moon prove that astronauts were on the Moon.

But if you've already said that NASA were capable of creating a rocket and lander which could get to the Moon and back, why couldn't they also create suits capable of sustaining the lives of the astronauts for the same amount of time?


i don't think they were capable of making a rocket, maybe it was a miniature rocket and moon and they secretly got a special effects team to do their job. Also, there is a picture of of an astronaut and the reflection in the helmet shows a piece of rope that is not necessary to be there, were the astronauts being pulled up by rope/thin string to create the low gravity effect?


If you're talking about this picture, it was taken during the Apollo 12 mission, not the Apollo 11 mission.

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But even if it was taken during the Apollo 11 mission, do you not think that the special effects team would have painstakingly analyzed every single photo for any flaws?


I don't believe we've ever landed on the Moon, not humans anyway. And special effect teams could have missed that object (rope) and i don't think they could brush something away like we can now on photo shop. Also why do we need suits and not just an oxygen mask/tank, why cant we reveal skin outside of our atmosphere?


There is no air pressure in space, and space is also extremely cold. They would 'fizz' to death without suits on to regulate their temperature and pressure.
They could have missed it, yes, but that doesn't prove that they did.
As far as I'm aware the common response to that picture is that it's an exposure blur.
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Nocebo wrote
TaDeDraGz wrote
Nocebo wrote
TaDeDraGz wrote
Nocebo wrote
TaDeDraGz wrote
Nocebo wroteYes we did.

There are reflectors on the Moon used to measure the distance between the Earth and Moon.
They were put there during the Apollo 11 mission and can be - and are - seen and used by amateur astronomers all over the world.
It's called the Lunar Laser Ranging Experiment.

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Irrefutable proof that we did land on the Moon, unless those reflectors got up there in some other way.


there are theories of the moon being a giant hologram printed into the sky, i'm not that crazy though. And have you seen photos where the shadows are coming from multiple directions, how? As well could the reflectors have been sent by the rocket they claimed the astronauts were in? and that rocket went to the moon and dropped the reflectors? And the astronauts were in a studio with fake props of the reflectors?


Even on Earth the bumps and hills in a picture affect which directions the shadows fall in.
Not to mention that the lunar lander was covered with reflective plates.
I would simply say that the pictures of the astronauts on the Moon prove that astronauts were on the Moon.

But if you've already said that NASA were capable of creating a rocket and lander which could get to the Moon and back, why couldn't they also create suits capable of sustaining the lives of the astronauts for the same amount of time?


i don't think they were capable of making a rocket, maybe it was a miniature rocket and moon and they secretly got a special effects team to do their job. Also, there is a picture of of an astronaut and the reflection in the helmet shows a piece of rope that is not necessary to be there, were the astronauts being pulled up by rope/thin string to create the low gravity effect?


If you're talking about this picture, it was taken during the Apollo 12 mission, not the Apollo 11 mission.

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But even if it was taken during the Apollo 11 mission, do you not think that the special effects team would have painstakingly analyzed every single photo for any flaws?


I don't believe we've ever landed on the Moon, not humans anyway. And special effect teams could have missed that object (rope) and i don't think they could brush something away like we can now on photo shop. Also why do we need suits and not just an oxygen mask/tank, why cant we reveal skin outside of our atmosphere?


There is no air pressure in space, and space is also extremely cold. They would 'fizz' to death without suits on to regulate their temperature and pressure.
They could have missed it, yes, but that doesn't prove that they did.
As far as I'm aware the common response to that picture is that it's an exposure blur.


It does look like a ceiling fan, it could've been used to make the flag look wavy, and what about the rock that was labelled 'c'? stage props?
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TaDeDraGz wrote
Nocebo wrote
TaDeDraGz wrote
Nocebo wrote
TaDeDraGz wrote
Nocebo wrote
TaDeDraGz wrote
Nocebo wroteYes we did.

There are reflectors on the Moon used to measure the distance between the Earth and Moon.
They were put there during the Apollo 11 mission and can be - and are - seen and used by amateur astronomers all over the world.
It's called the Lunar Laser Ranging Experiment.

[ Register or Signin to view external links. ]

Irrefutable proof that we did land on the Moon, unless those reflectors got up there in some other way.


there are theories of the moon being a giant hologram printed into the sky, i'm not that crazy though. And have you seen photos where the shadows are coming from multiple directions, how? As well could the reflectors have been sent by the rocket they claimed the astronauts were in? and that rocket went to the moon and dropped the reflectors? And the astronauts were in a studio with fake props of the reflectors?


Even on Earth the bumps and hills in a picture affect which directions the shadows fall in.
Not to mention that the lunar lander was covered with reflective plates.
I would simply say that the pictures of the astronauts on the Moon prove that astronauts were on the Moon.

But if you've already said that NASA were capable of creating a rocket and lander which could get to the Moon and back, why couldn't they also create suits capable of sustaining the lives of the astronauts for the same amount of time?


i don't think they were capable of making a rocket, maybe it was a miniature rocket and moon and they secretly got a special effects team to do their job. Also, there is a picture of of an astronaut and the reflection in the helmet shows a piece of rope that is not necessary to be there, were the astronauts being pulled up by rope/thin string to create the low gravity effect?


If you're talking about this picture, it was taken during the Apollo 12 mission, not the Apollo 11 mission.

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But even if it was taken during the Apollo 11 mission, do you not think that the special effects team would have painstakingly analyzed every single photo for any flaws?


I don't believe we've ever landed on the Moon, not humans anyway. And special effect teams could have missed that object (rope) and i don't think they could brush something away like we can now on photo shop. Also why do we need suits and not just an oxygen mask/tank, why cant we reveal skin outside of our atmosphere?


There is no air pressure in space, and space is also extremely cold. They would 'fizz' to death without suits on to regulate their temperature and pressure.
They could have missed it, yes, but that doesn't prove that they did.
As far as I'm aware the common response to that picture is that it's an exposure blur.


It does look like a ceiling fan, it could've been used to make the flag look wavy, and what about the rock that was labelled 'c'? stage props?


The flag had a wire running through it to keep it in a wavy looking position. If it was a real flag it would have simply flopped around next to the pole and wouldn't have looked very good on TV. The wire kept it in the position of a waving flag on Earth.
When Neil first pushed the pole into the ground the kinetic energy in the bar would have also caused the flag to wave back and forth, but it did eventually stop as that energy dissipated.

The 'C' rock can be attributed to Pareidolia, a psychological effect in which we see patterns where there are none. It's like when we look at clouds and see the outlines of boots, countries, animals, etc.
This could also explain why people see a ceiling fan, microphone, or rope in the visor blur.

Not to mention that movie studios don't actually label their prop pieces specifically because the label might be seen if the director chooses to film from a different angle.
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