Continuous wrote

Sophist wrote

Continuous wrote

Sophist wrote It was mainly to protect women's rights. There is also sexual abuse and abortion rights. In my opinion, women should have the right to control their own ovaries.

Sexual abuse is not a choice. And sexual abuse can happen to any one, not just women.

And abortion rights? There are very few cases in which abortions are justified. One justified case, would be if you are raped. If you did not want to have a kid, then you should not be having sex. It is as simple as that. You should not kill a little baby, just because you messed up.

And no body is trying to get rid of womens rights. Men are just tired of women acting like babies and getting their way.
As 002 said...

Sorry, if you can't do the work a man can then you shouldn't be hired or get the same pay.

I am not going to argue with you over abortion. You are entitled to your opinion. However, state it as your opinion. You speak like your word is god. You have some real audacity though, speaking from the outside and telling a woman what she should and shouldn't be able to do. Like you know the circumstances of their life. Lol.

What circumstance would it be acceptable to kill a little baby? Almost none. Just because the women fu**ed up, does not mean that she should be able to kill a little baby. It is not a opinion, it is outright murder.

Actually no, it is an opinion. What, you don't recognize the massive debate that's happened for years over this?
Do you understand what a miserable life children in broken homes and foster care have? I'll give you a hint, suicide levels. I do not think any child deserves to brought into the world like that. Also, accidents happen. Get real, you can be as cautious as hell and still end up pregnant, Now I suppose you want to tell everyone to stop having sex at all unless they plan on having a kid. You do not understand the emotional trauma that can come with being forced to have a kid as well.

Someone would have taken there place eventually. It goes the other way too. What if someone like Hitler or Stalin was aborted? Anyway, doesn't mater. I don't see them as "babies." They are life that are genetically human, but they aren't human beings. They need some type of awareness. They need a consciousness. Are brain dead people really still people? I think that they are dead. It is just a shell at that point. I also don't think women should be forced to be a human incubator to something that isn't even aware. That is an unneeded punishment.
The definition of a human being...

1.
any individual of the genus Homo, especially a member of the species Homo sapiens.
2.
a person, especially as distinguished from other animals or as representing the human species:

You do not need to be aware or conscious to be a human being. Yes brain dead people are still human. But they are dead, they are not living like a "baby" is. As I said, rape would be a justified reason for a abortion. But as for this statement...

I also don't think women should be forced to be a human incubator to something that isn't even aware. That is an unneeded punishment.

Unless you are raped, you would have to WILLINGLY have sex. You would not be forced to be a human incubator. Unless you are raped, you have a choice. If you want to have sex, then get some birth control. There are things that can be done so that you do not need a abortion. It is completely preventable.

Sophist wrote

Continuous wrote

Sophist wrote

Continuous wrote

Sophist wrote It was mainly to protect women's rights. There is also sexual abuse and abortion rights. In my opinion, women should have the right to control their own ovaries.

Sexual abuse is not a choice. And sexual abuse can happen to any one, not just women.

And abortion rights? There are very few cases in which abortions are justified. One justified case, would be if you are raped. If you did not want to have a kid, then you should not be having sex. It is as simple as that. You should not kill a little baby, just because you messed up.

And no body is trying to get rid of womens rights. Men are just tired of women acting like babies and getting their way.
As 002 said...

Sorry, if you can't do the work a man can then you shouldn't be hired or get the same pay.

I am not going to argue with you over abortion. You are entitled to your opinion. However, state it as your opinion. You speak like your word is god. You have some real audacity though, speaking from the outside and telling a woman what she should and shouldn't be able to do. Like you know the circumstances of their life. Lol.

What circumstance would it be acceptable to kill a little baby? Almost none. Just because the women fu**ed up, does not mean that she should be able to kill a little baby. It is not a opinion, it is outright murder.

Actually no, it is an opinion. What, you don't recognize the massive debate that's happened for years over this?
Do you understand what a miserable life children in broken homes and foster care have? I'll give you a hint, suicide levels. I do not think any child deserves to brought into the world like that. Also, accidents happen. Get real, you can be as cautious as hell and still end up pregnant, Now I suppose you want to tell everyone to stop having sex at all unless they plan on having a kid. You do not understand the emotional trauma that can come with being forced to have a kid as well.

No child deserves to have a bad life. Yes accidents happen, but this is something that is almost completely avoidable. You can use things like birth control, condoms, etc. And you can use them all together. I'm not going to tell anyone to quit having sex, but I would tell them to think about what they are doing. It is like drinking. No body wants to drive while they are drunk( at least they should not), but things happen. Same for having sex, things that were not planned might happen.

I guess that for some rare chance that your precautions have not worked, then it might be justified, but you would still need to prove that you took precautions.

I have not had a kid, so i do not know about the emotional trauma. But it is the risk that you take. And you have to be willing to pay for what you do. Sure you could have a abortion, but it should not be acceptable. You should at the bare minimum get manslaughter charges.

It's the woman's body. She has no obligation to keep something alive with her body. She should never be forced to, even if she chose to have sex. I'm not going to punish people for sex and maybe making mistakes. We are better than that. In my opinion, a fetus just has the potential to be a person. I care about the people that are here now, not the potential ones. Her body, her choice. She has to deal with it for at least nine months. No one else. It is hers to stop that.

Edit: The quote was messed up. Just got rid of it.

Continuous wrote

Yin wrote Well, women should have a special right. Abortion. The current US government wants to limit it more. Also, the protest is more of a sign of unity and solidarity. Majority of Americans have their opinions. I feel it is a great thing. It is a good contrast to what we have been shown by out current government.

Why should women be able to kill a little baby for stupid reasons in most cases? I can understand if you were raped or something like that, then a abortion might be justified. But in most cases, it is women that had sex and "somehow got pregnant". Think about how the world would be if Bill Gates or Steve Jobs was aborted.

I'm sorry, but in no world should a clump of cells that have no brainwave, heartbeat, sense of self or feeling can be considered a living being. If a woman wants to get rid of a fetus because it was a mistake and it would wreck her life, then of course she should be allowed to remove a clump of cells from her ovaries.

If she wants to have sex and not have a kid, then she needs to take precautions. If those precautions do not work, then she can have a abortion. You should not get punished for sex, but mistakes can be something that deserves punishment. If you make the mistake of killing some one while dui, you should pay for what you did. You should care about everyone. Everybody plays a role in society. It is her body, but it is not her life. I'm tried of arguing. So I will restate what I said earlier... If she wants to have sex and not have a kid, then he needs to take precautions. If those precautions do not work, then she can have a abortion. But there should not be a abortion if it is avoidable.

I love how this topic isn't even about the protesters anymore.

Greg wrote

Continuous wrote

Yin wrote Well, women should have a special right. Abortion. The current US government wants to limit it more. Also, the protest is more of a sign of unity and solidarity. Majority of Americans have their opinions. I feel it is a great thing. It is a good contrast to what we have been shown by out current government.

Why should women be able to kill a little baby for stupid reasons in most cases? I can understand if you were raped or something like that, then a abortion might be justified. But in most cases, it is women that had sex and "somehow got pregnant". Think about how the world would be if Bill Gates or Steve Jobs was aborted.

I'm sorry, but in no world should a clump of cells that have no brainwave, heartbeat, sense of self or feeling can be considered a living being. If a woman wants to get rid of a fetus because it was a mistake and it would wreck her life, then of course she should be allowed to remove a clump of cells from her ovaries.

It was a mistake, but she needs to pay for it. If you make the mistake of killing someone because you were dui, you will pay. A dui, is a felony, it will ruin your life. Just because it was a mistake, does not mean it is okay.

You can't compare drunk driving to abortions. Drunk driving kills people, that are here right now. Abortion is stopping the conscious life before it starts. Not the same thing.

You can't compare a dui in which a person is killed to removing a clump of cells so small you cannot see them with the naked eye. Late term abortions when the baby can feel, think, respond to external stimulus, sure they shouldn't be allowed to be aborted, but a simple clump of a few dozen cells cannot be compared to a human life...

Not trying to cause an argument, everyone has their own opinions