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Coushy wrote Guns dont kill people, but people with guns kill people more often. The countries with the most lenient gun control also have the highest amount of homicides per crime. Not that im against guns, just something you should consider

Where did you get the from? Multiple studies have shown that there is no correlation between gun ownership and crime. There are countries that have high gun ownership and low crime (Switzerland), high gun ownership and high crime (US), low gun ownership and high crime (Britain, Mexico) and low gun ownership and low crime (Japan). Also, for everyone thinking the US should up and take away guns from citizens, look at Mexico. Mexico has some of the toughest gun laws in the world, but the country has tons of illegal guns, and plagued by crime and murder in fact, far more than the government will acknowledge.

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crime in Washington has risen dramatically since 1976, the year before its handgun ban took effect. Washington, D.C., now has outrageously higher crime rates than any of the states (D.C. 1992 violent crime rate: 2832.8 per 100,000 residents; U.S. rate: 757.5), with a homicide rate 8 times the national rate (1992 rate 75.4 per 100,000 for D.C., 9.3 nationally.) No wonder former D.C. Police Chief Maurice Turner said, "What has the gun control law done to keep criminals from getting guns? Absolutely nothing... [City residents] ought to have the opportunity to have a handgun."

We're talking about two different things here though, you're talking about the correlation(or the lack of it) between gun ownership and crime and im talking about the correlation between gun ownership and homicides per crime.

That being said i agree with most of you that changing the gun laws in america would not make things any better

kamilca wrote I think guns should be much harder to obtain and require regular tests to keep. guns are made for harming and sport, cars are made for transport, I see your point but its like comparing apples to shoes

guns can feed your family

Mr_Robot wrote

kamilca wrote I think guns should be much harder to obtain and require regular tests to keep. guns are made for harming and sport, cars are made for transport, I see your point but its like comparing apples to shoes

"guns are made for harming" !? Omg dude...

Guns are made for protecting ourselves and our country. You can go around without any means to protect your life but I am carrying a gun with me.

Also its not comparing apples to shoes, it's comparing the death rates of one thing to another thing

So when people hunt...they're protecting themselves from deer? Not every gun is innocent. They're made to harm. There are PLENTY ways to protect yourself. Relying on a gun all the time is ridiculous.

If guns are so safe, then EVERYONE GETS A GUN!!!!!
YOU GET A GUN.

YOU GET A GUN!!


LITTLE JIMMY GETS A GUN!! WOOOO LETS ALL HAVE GUNS.


Have a problem with it? Hmmm...i wonder why lol.

You wanna protect yourself ? A gun isnt the only means of sel defense. Want to hunt? You Don't NEED a gun to kill an animal.

Dislike this is you wish but it's true. You dont need a gun for anything. Its a perk.

Its one thing to shoot at a range...but do you REALLY need an AR to protect you? Use a pistol. You technically dont even need that. Elemtentary schools ...and CHILDREN wouldn't have gotten penetrated by bullets if the US had stricter gun laws.


"Oh but driving.."


I don't drive hunting for children. I drive for transportation. But i guess a grown man needed to protected himself from little kids so he shot em up lol



Pathetic.

Too many lurking variables. Like 60-70 percent of people (In 1st world countries) drive cars
Not many people own guns, of course people die in car crashes more every day, but until 60 percent of people own guns it's not really enough to interpret the data really

Motioncorey wrote If guns are so safe, then EVERYONE GETS A GUN!!!!!
YOU GET A GUN.

YOU GET A GUN!!


LITTLE JIMMY GETS A GUN!! WOOOO LETS ALL HAVE GUNS.


Have a problem with it? Hmmm...i wonder why lol.

You wanna protect yourself ? A gun isnt the only means of sel defense. Want to hunt? You Don't NEED a gun to kill an animal.

Dislike this is you wish but it's true. You dont need a gun for anything. Its a perk.

Its one thing to shoot at a range...but do you REALLY need an AR to protect you? Use a pistol. You technically dont even need that. Elemtentary schools ...and CHILDREN wouldn't have gotten penetrated by bullets if the US had stricter gun laws.


"Oh but driving.."


I don't drive hunting for children. I drive for transportation. But i guess a grown man needed to protected himself from little kids so he shot em up lol



Pathetic.

This is so ignorant. Gun's there are examples of guns being used for good and bad, and motorized vehicles

There are over 300 million guns in the United States, and getting rid of them would not only be unconstitutional but also impossible. Why would you want to ban ARs when the overwhelming majority of gun murders are done with handguns? The second amendment isn't there for hunting, it exists as a way to deter a tyrannical government should one ever arise. People need to stop begging to have their rights taken from them because of the horse shit spewed out by the liberal gun grabbing media.

Motioncorey wrote If guns are so safe, then EVERYONE GETS A GUN!!!!!
YOU GET A GUN.

YOU GET A GUN!!


LITTLE JIMMY GETS A GUN!! WOOOO LETS ALL HAVE GUNS.


Have a problem with it? Hmmm...i wonder why lol.

You wanna protect yourself ? A gun isnt the only means of sel defense. Want to hunt? You Don't NEED a gun to kill an animal.

Dislike this is you wish but it's true. You dont need a gun for anything. Its a perk.

Its one thing to shoot at a range...but do you REALLY need an AR to protect you? Use a pistol. You technically dont even need that. Elemtentary schools ...and CHILDREN wouldn't have gotten penetrated by bullets if the US had stricter gun laws.


"Oh but driving.."


I don't drive hunting for children. I drive for transportation. But i guess a grown man needed to protected himself from little kids so he shot em up lol



Pathetic.

A gun is not the only way to protect your self, but it is one of the most effective ways of protecting yourself. I consider my life valuable, and I want to protect it the best possible way that I can. You could use a bow to hunt, but that is a little bit more difficult and there are many pros of using a gun. For example, what if you shoot a deer with a arrow, but it does not kill it and the deer runs away. That is not very humane. But you could get a semi automatic rifle and you could have fired multiple shots and killed the deer in a few seconds rather than chasing the deer down and putting it through a lot more pain than it should have gone through. Every situation is different, and different guns are better for different situations. An AR would be great for protection. What if you are attacked by multiple people, you would be better off with something like a AR opposed to something like a bow. You could use a pistol, but that accomplishes the same thing as a AR would, they would both do a good job. Take the military for example, the people on the front lines don't take a bow and arrow to go fight a war, they take all sorts of guns. I don't drive hunting for children either, but I also own a gun hoping that I am going to go do a school shooting. It is their for protection. People who go and commit school shooting have problems. You can bring up all of the statistics that you want about how people who commit school shootings don't have mental problems. But no body who is sane, would go a murder school kids for no reason. After reading through this topic, I have realized that most of the people are against guns are not going to see our pro-gun side, but I would at least like for you try and understand what we think.

guns are super pointless unless you are in the army then its worth to own a gun other then that a handgun is fine for hunting a hunting rifle is fine other then that the us should forbid none army personals from owning ars and also its the parents who doesnt hide their guns/keep their guns out of reach of kids,

same goes for driving if parents raised their kids correctly maybe then the kid wouldnt be r*ped by the pedo whos in a van same with the idiots who speed they shouldnt drive always obey the law of the road want to speed go to the race tracks not streets like i said parents are irresponsible for their safty of their kids they shouldnt drive nor have any guns

Faux25 wrote guns are super pointless unless you are in the army then its worth to own a gun other then that a handgun is fine for hunting a hunting rifle is fine other then that the us should forbid none army personals from owning ars and also its the parents who doesnt hide their guns/keep their guns out of reach of kids,

same goes for driving if parents raised their kids correctly maybe then the kid wouldnt be r*ped by the pedo whos in a van same with the idiots who speed they shouldnt drive always obey the law of the road want to speed go to the race tracks not streets like i said parents are irresponsible for their safty of their kids they shouldnt drive nor have any guns

Guns are not pointless. I would like to start of by saying thank you to all of the people who have served, the point of this response is not to talk trash. I have a great amount of respect for those that serve their country. But what makes someone who has served in the army so special that they should be able to own a gun, but no body else can? You have typed your post in a way that is hard to understand, so I don't know what you said after "guns are super pointless". Yes a hunting rifle should be fine for hunting, but a hunting rifle could be any rifle. What makes a hunting rifle, a hunting rifle? You could hunt with pretty much any rifle. You are obviously scared of guns, you have been brain washed by the news. I can tell this because you single out ar's. The news has made you think that all guns are horrible. You can't blame parents for having guns in reach of children. You should blame the parents for not teaching their kids about guns. I was around 12 when I first shot a gun, and my dad took me to a range with my brother who was around 10. We learned how to use and treat guns. I am almost 17 now and we have many guns around the house that are not locked up. We never touch the guns unless my dad is around. The problem with kids and guns, is that they are not taught about guns. Its a different story if your kid is 3 or 4. But at 9 or 10 most kids can understand that a gun is not a toy, and they can be taught how to use and treat guns. "if parents raised their kids correctly maybe then the kid wouldnt be r*ped by the pedo" really? You must be retarded, so I will put this in a way that you can understand. A 65-70 pound third grade little kid can do almost nothing to stop some pedophile from raping them. It has nothing to do with parents raising their kids.