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360MoTioN wrote Don't say 'I seriously doubt your football knowledge' it makes you look pretty silly as you cannot acknowledge other peoples opinions.

If you didn't use phrases like "quite a mountain to climb" as if implying that Real/Bayern are far superior to us, I wouldn't have doubted your football knowledge. It's ludicrous to imply that we're significantly worse than the pair.. "quite a mountain to climb" is normally the type of phrase commentators would use if we went 3-0 down at Stamford Bridge and had to win at the Allianz, not a simple Chelsea vs Bayern/Real fixture. The chances of me looking silly are rather slim because I'm often very much in favour of somewhat intellectual football debate. This would be a slightly exception because your underlying point is largely flawed.

360MoTioN wrote with this team you have now you haven't proved much

We are the sole reason England still have four champions league spaces. As individuals, we have proven ourselves

Courtois: Top GK in La Liga at 21, got to the champions league final and was minutes away from winning it.
Azpi: Best one-on-one fullback in the premier league.
Terry: CL winner (albeit missed the final but played a huge part), one of the all-time best CBs
Cahill: CL winner
Ivanovic: CL winner
Matic: Instrumental to the success this season
Fabregas: CL winner, WC winner
Hazard: Instrumental to the success this season
Oscar: Goal vs Juve, overall superb performances
Willian: Ultimate Mourinho attacker, very useful against big teams
Costa: CL finalist, world-renown ST

If your argument is that our squad collectively haven't proved themselves, that's because this individual squad make-up has only existed in this form for the last few months. In that time, we've gone unbeaten in all competitions excluding a silly BPL loss, topped our champions league group, etc. We couldn't have proved much more in the short time this team have existed together.

360MoTioN wrote you've spent over a billion pounds to win less premier league titles than we have in the last 10 years.

How else were we meant to stabilise a top spot? All decent young players want to come to the successful teams. It is impossible to break in to the top four consistently without investment. Plus, you've picked the worst time to criticise us on finances considering the absurd wages Rooney/RVP/Falcao are paid, paying 30Mil allegedly for a season long loan with an injury tarnished striker, etc.

What even is the stigma against spending money in football? Assuming you don't violate financial fair play, it's a bloody good strategy and was the only option to breaking in to the top four consistently.

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OhDiegoCosta wrote

360MoTioN wrote Don't say 'I seriously doubt your football knowledge' it makes you look pretty silly as you cannot acknowledge other peoples opinions.

If you didn't use phrases like "quite a mountain to climb" as if implying that Real/Bayern are far superior to us, I wouldn't have doubted your football knowledge. It's ludicrous to imply that we're significantly worse than the pair.. "quite a mountain to climb" is normally the type of phrase commentators would use if we went 3-0 down at Stamford Bridge and had to win at the Allianz, not a simple Chelsea vs Bayern/Real fixture. The chances of me looking silly are rather slim because I'm often very much in favour of somewhat intellectual football debate. This would be a slightly exception because your underlying point is largely flawed.

360MoTioN wrote with this team you have now you haven't proved much

We are the sole reason England still have four champions league spaces. As individuals, we have proven ourselves

Courtois: Top GK in La Liga at 21, got to the champions league final and was minutes away from winning it.
Azpi: Best one-on-one fullback in the premier league.
Terry: CL winner (albeit missed the final but played a huge part), one of the all-time best CBs
Cahill: CL winner
Ivanovic: CL winner
Matic: Instrumental to the success this season
Fabregas: CL winner, WC winner
Hazard: Instrumental to the success this season
Oscar: Goal vs Juve, overall superb performances
Willian: Ultimate Mourinho attacker, very useful against big teams
Costa: CL finalist, world-renown ST

If your argument is that our squad collectively haven't proved themselves, that's because this individual squad make-up has only existed in this form for the last few months. In that time, we've gone unbeaten in all competitions excluding a silly BPL loss, topped our champions league group, etc. We couldn't have proved much more in the short time this team have existed together.

360MoTioN wrote you've spent over a billion pounds to win less premier league titles than we have in the last 10 years.

How else were we meant to stabilise a top spot? All decent young players want to come to the successful teams. It is impossible to break in to the top four consistently without investment. Plus, you've picked the worst time to criticise us on finances considering the absurd wages Rooney/RVP/Falcao are paid, paying 30Mil allegedly for a season long loan with an injury tarnished striker, etc.

What even is the stigma against spending money in football? Assuming you don't violate financial fair play, it's a bloody good strategy and was the only option to breaking in to the top four consistently.

I'm sorry, simple math will work out what this season will cost us for Falcao.
4m up front for him, not 30m or any other ludicrous number.

256k per week wages.13.312 million per year. Thats under 20m including a years wages, Im also hearing Monaco are paying some of that?

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360MoTioN wrote Dominant team? maybe so for this season although you're a massive 3 points in front of City and you've spent over a billion pounds to win less premier league titles than we have in the last 10 years.

Also

1. United are the 3rd most valuable club compared to Chelsea who are in 6th with a net worth of less than 1/3rd of ours.

2. 3rd highest revenue compared to Chelsea who once again are 6th

3. Worlds most supported sports club

4. 62 major trophies compared to Chelsea's 28

5. 2nd highest average attendance in Europe

6. Won the premier league in 2012-13 you last won it in 2009-10

7. Have won the premier league title 13 times compared to your 3. 20 League titles compared to your 4

By the looks of it I don't see you're dominating English not by a long shot what because you finished 3rd last season and top of the league before the January transfer windows just look at Arsenal last season.

He was talking about the last few years. Nobody is claiming Chelsea to be the most successful or the most supported club of all time... Starting to sound like a Liverpool fan with all this history talk

Wasn't really having this discussion with you, but if there was no History in Football then it would be boring and there would be no rivalry.

Must of updated that , As i didnt see that first time round , Lets go over these points

1. United are the 3rd most valuable club compared to Chelsea who are in 6th with a net worth of less than 1/3rd of ours.

So your richer than us ,Well done.We still have a better squad than you , A Better manager than you whilst still complying with FFP even though we are 1/3rd the net worth as you , Pretty decent i would say.

Also you moan about Chelsea spending "Billions" , What is your reason for bringing that up? (Most of the time , when people bring up this) they say "Money is ruining football" , So why bring up the value of your club? , If your shit your shit no matter how much your value.

2. 3rd highest revenue compared to Chelsea who once again are 6th

Im glad to see there is a huge difference here , UTD fans like to claim they have history , They have trophies etc , "We have been a big club for years before your success" , If that is the case and we are only 3 spots below you for worth and revenue , Isnt that a good thing for CFC? if you were a big club for years and years and (According to fans of other teams) we were only good from 2005 , But we are still 6th in the world ,Isnt that a huge achivement to be ahead of so many clubs that were around before us?


3. Worlds most supported sports club

Its because you were successfull for long periods , I could easily pull the "UTD glory hunters" but im not because all teams (Succusfull) have glory hunters , But i guarantee you if you keep doing medicore (3rd-5th place) and CFC or man city arsenal etc start dominanting england (Like you once did) the amount of utd fans (Over years) will drop and those others will rise , Examples AC milan was once extremely successful , Now i dont hear anything about them and when that happens a team is replaced (Ie , Instead of all the news on man utd , All the news on chelsea or city and overtime youll see a huge drop at united and a huge rise elsewhere).

Its a good thing to have though i will admit but doesent do anything for you football wise.

4. 62 major trophies compared to Chelsea's 28

Again ill bring up the earlier point of "You were only good from 2005) , If we have just under half of your trophies thats pretty good considering the "Rich history of man utd"

5. 2nd highest average attendance in Europe

Does it matter? ,

6. Won the premier league in 2012-13 you last won it in 2009-10

When was the last time chelsea won the CL , When was the last time united won the CL?...

7 Have won the premier league title 13 times compared to your 3. 20 League titles compared to your 4

Again refer to point 4 but aswell as that manchester uniteds dominace is coming to a end , Chelsea are just getting started , We have a team that could go on win a PL trophy nearly every season.

Don't talk nonsense Chelsea were founded in 1905 and to be that far behind in all departments behind another club that was found 20 years prior is pretty appalling in my book. Aston villa have won more top division titles than you have for god sake.
You finished 3rd in the league last season is that something to right home about, maybe if you said Man city could come into a dominant spell i would believe you but chelsea no
chance.

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360MoTioN wrote

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CompleteDesigns wrote

360MoTioN wrote

Brad- wrote

360MoTioN wrote Dominant team? maybe so for this season although you're a massive 3 points in front of City and you've spent over a billion pounds to win less premier league titles than we have in the last 10 years.

Also

1. United are the 3rd most valuable club compared to Chelsea who are in 6th with a net worth of less than 1/3rd of ours.

2. 3rd highest revenue compared to Chelsea who once again are 6th

3. Worlds most supported sports club

4. 62 major trophies compared to Chelsea's 28

5. 2nd highest average attendance in Europe

6. Won the premier league in 2012-13 you last won it in 2009-10

7. Have won the premier league title 13 times compared to your 3. 20 League titles compared to your 4

By the looks of it I don't see you're dominating English not by a long shot what because you finished 3rd last season and top of the league before the January transfer windows just look at Arsenal last season.

He was talking about the last few years. Nobody is claiming Chelsea to be the most successful or the most supported club of all time... Starting to sound like a Liverpool fan with all this history talk

Wasn't really having this discussion with you, but if there was no History in Football then it would be boring and there would be no rivalry.

Must of updated that , As i didnt see that first time round , Lets go over these points

1. United are the 3rd most valuable club compared to Chelsea who are in 6th with a net worth of less than 1/3rd of ours.

So your richer than us ,Well done.We still have a better squad than you , A Better manager than you whilst still complying with FFP even though we are 1/3rd the net worth as you , Pretty decent i would say.

Also you moan about Chelsea spending "Billions" , What is your reason for bringing that up? (Most of the time , when people bring up this) they say "Money is ruining football" , So why bring up the value of your club? , If your shit your shit no matter how much your value.

2. 3rd highest revenue compared to Chelsea who once again are 6th

Im glad to see there is a huge difference here , UTD fans like to claim they have history , They have trophies etc , "We have been a big club for years before your success" , If that is the case and we are only 3 spots below you for worth and revenue , Isnt that a good thing for CFC? if you were a big club for years and years and (According to fans of other teams) we were only good from 2005 , But we are still 6th in the world ,Isnt that a huge achivement to be ahead of so many clubs that were around before us?


3. Worlds most supported sports club

Its because you were successfull for long periods , I could easily pull the "UTD glory hunters" but im not because all teams (Succusfull) have glory hunters , But i guarantee you if you keep doing medicore (3rd-5th place) and CFC or man city arsenal etc start dominanting england (Like you once did) the amount of utd fans (Over years) will drop and those others will rise , Examples AC milan was once extremely successful , Now i dont hear anything about them and when that happens a team is replaced (Ie , Instead of all the news on man utd , All the news on chelsea or city and overtime youll see a huge drop at united and a huge rise elsewhere).

Its a good thing to have though i will admit but doesent do anything for you football wise.

4. 62 major trophies compared to Chelsea's 28

Again ill bring up the earlier point of "You were only good from 2005) , If we have just under half of your trophies thats pretty good considering the "Rich history of man utd"

5. 2nd highest average attendance in Europe

Does it matter? ,

6. Won the premier league in 2012-13 you last won it in 2009-10

When was the last time chelsea won the CL , When was the last time united won the CL?...

7 Have won the premier league title 13 times compared to your 3. 20 League titles compared to your 4

Again refer to point 4 but aswell as that manchester uniteds dominace is coming to a end , Chelsea are just getting started , We have a team that could go on win a PL trophy nearly every season.

Don't talk nonsense Chelsea were founded in 1905 and to be that far behind in all departments behind another club that was found 20 years prior is pretty appalling in my book. Aston villa have won more top division titles than you have for god sake.
You finished 3rd in the league last season is that something to right home about, maybe if you said Man city could come into a dominant spell i would believe you but chelsea no
chance.

My brain literally hurts talking to you , You think city , Who have a shit defence ,Restrictions on FFP and no way of creating revenue (Unlike chelsea who have a youth academy full of bright talents will dominant english football but chelsea the club with one of the best managers in the world , The best squad , The best youth prospects etc.

Aston villa have won more top division titles ,But they are shit we are not xD.Even liverpool and united was good once haha xD

You sound like someone who has never been to watch a football match, sure you'll reply to this saying 'I have a Chelsea season ticket' but we both no that's a lie.

CompleteDesigns wrote Ok you say that , But do you ACTUALLY belive it?

LVG is not as good a manager as Jose , Pure and simple.

When a big club wants a manager they go for Jose , Thats not a coincidence.

Your celebrating being 8PTS behind us?...
Also i agree with the unbeatun thing , The only reason i will be happy for the loss vs newcastle is so everyone shuts up about it.

You say about the FFP thing but its about how you spend it , Southamption have proved you dont need to be the 3rds richest club or the 3rd richest revune to get good players , We proved that too that we might not have the best apperance numbers , Our tickets may not be the higest price , We may not have a deal the size of man utds , But man united wanted Cesc , We got him , Pretty much everyone wanted costa , We got him , No one really (Outside of portgual) talked about Matic ,We got him and he is one of the best CDMs , Hazard was wanted by city ,Utd etc he came to chelsea.

Meanwhile utd got a player Cheslea didnt want , A player Real madrid did not want , A player everton are probbally laughing about , A (According to LVG) unfit player for 30M.

Spurs had 100m+ to spend , Got nothing out of it , Liverpool too , You had 100m spent on Falcoa (Loan) Mata , Di maria , We got Cesc fabregas , Costa , Matic for less than that , Which were players we needed.