Yes I understand that, But here Ill just say this: If im a criminal and I was being restrained I would attempt to get the guard by simply stating "I Can't Breathe" He then could loosen up and I would have even more leverage to break free than originaly. That is why there not going to loosen up when you state that, Thats why you have to attempt at what I stated. But you know if this world wasn't so messed up you wouldn't have to worry about them restraining you. But Im sorry it dosent work that way. But you need to look at this as if you where a cop and you dont know what could happen. But None of us can say what happened here, This is a simple video it explains nothing. Unless we were there we cant say for sure what happened.

Potion_Jr_Jr wrote Its sad this happened, But a few things I would like to point out.
1: The cops could not of known he had asthma and Would be fatal if this happened.
2: The man should of listened to the police and put his hands behind his back, and just followed what he was saying.
3: Only retaliate from police if you can 100% prove that you did not commit a crime without a doubt and have evidence you didn't.
4: Even though he may of broken up the fight It is still protocol that he be quesioned in what occurred in the incident.
5: The Cop used a method of restraint taught to all police incase of an unruly suspect. No matter what it is his job to restrain the suspect if he is acting in an un-orderly Fashion.
6: Everything that happened was the cop enforcing standard protocol set forth by the Local, State, and National Goverment.
7: From what I saw there was no "Abuse" of power, it was simply protocol that ended horribly
8: If a cop is restraining you in a manner that can cause harm you must notify him if possibly. The man stated "I Can't Breath" twice, If instead he would of stated "Asthma" The could would of loosened up as that is indicating you have a medical issue.
9: If a cop confronts you and is attempting to handcuff you DO NOT IN ANY WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM Move, swing your arms, resist, or anything in that manner or they will have to restrain you by protocol.
10: What happened here is protocol. The cops where following what they where trained to do, and what they where trained to do if someone was resisting, What ended up happening is the man being restrained couldn't breathe but did not "attempt" to State he had asthma in any way or form, he simply said "I can't breathe". This could of gone better if the cops explained themselves more and he didn't "resist"

What happened here is truly sad but there was no Police "brutality" or "Abuse" of power. It was simply cops following protocol and it going wrong. I hope the police department and the cop issues a sincere apology and the family gets along through this time of grief.

You are 100% correct. Although this is sad that it happened, it was mostly his fault. He didnt cooperate with law enforcement and they were forced to use physical force. They are watching out for the public and if you dont listen to them, theyre gonna use harmful force. Lesson learned. I dont care if you were walking down the street, doing absolutely nothing wrong, you 1000% comply with police.

Potion_Jr_Jr wrote Its sad this happened, But a few things I would like to point out.
1: The cops could not of known he had asthma and Would be fatal if this happened.
2: The man should of listened to the police and put his hands behind his back, and just followed what he was saying.
3: Only retaliate from police if you can 100% prove that you did not commit a crime without a doubt and have evidence you didn't.
4: Even though he may of broken up the fight It is still protocol that he be quesioned in what occurred in the incident.
5: The Cop used a method of restraint taught to all police incase of an unruly suspect. No matter what it is his job to restrain the suspect if he is acting in an un-orderly Fashion.
6: Everything that happened was the cop enforcing standard protocol set forth by the Local, State, and National Goverment.
7: From what I saw there was no "Abuse" of power, it was simply protocol that ended horribly
8: If a cop is restraining you in a manner that can cause harm you must notify him if possibly. The man stated "I Can't Breath" twice, If instead he would of stated "Asthma" The could would of loosened up as that is indicating you have a medical issue.
9: If a cop confronts you and is attempting to handcuff you DO NOT IN ANY WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM Move, swing your arms, resist, or anything in that manner or they will have to restrain you by protocol.
10: What happened here is protocol. The cops where following what they where trained to do, and what they where trained to do if someone was resisting, What ended up happening is the man being restrained couldn't breathe but did not "attempt" to State he had asthma in any way or form, he simply said "I can't breathe". This could of gone better if the cops explained themselves more and he didn't "resist"

What happened here is truly sad but there was no Police "brutality" or "Abuse" of power. It was simply cops following protocol and it going wrong. I hope the police department and the cop issues a sincere apology and the family gets along through this time of grief.

The things that are bolded and are in red are things I disagree with. Number 5, police are not "taught" to choke people out... keep in mind there were already multiple officers on top of him. So if that isn't brutality, I don't know what is.

If you are being choked, piled up on, arms being twisted, and probably disoriented by now, you are definitely not going to to think of the correct medical term to say you can not breathe. IF ANYONE SAYS THEY CAN'T BREATHE, THAT'S A SIGN SOMETHING IS GONNA GO WRONG.

I absolutely feel like the cop was acting out of place and in a manner he shouldn't have.


Cops have to follow "protocol" but, if you see that the man is struggling to breathe, follow the protocol of being a decent guy and releasing the choke hold while he is piled all over, and being grabbed and twisted.

The method is not used to choke out the suspect. The method is used to restrain him, struggling can restrict the airways and lead to possible harm, But cops arnt going to choke a suspect out till he dies or goes unconcious. Now if you re watch after the first time of stating he can't breathe the cop actually lets go and place his hand on the back/side of the skull.

If that is not clear enough watch the video and you will see the man continues to say he can not breathe even though no one is restricting which means his asthma is acting up, You cant hold a cop accountable for that.. Also I stated my reasoning earlier about this anyway so please re read that. Yes, By law there was NO police brutality that occurred.

Note*: Please realise the reason the cops restrained him in this fashion after he resisted arrest is because of potential danger: Please understand that this man has been arrested 31 times. And this arrest wasn't just because he broke up a fight the man was also being arrested for illegally selling cigarettes. Now I understand this is sad, and I understand that im going to get downvoted, But this was not police brutality. That has been the entire point im trying to get across.

Potion_Jr_Jr wrote Its sad this happened, But a few things I would like to point out.
1: The cops could not of known he had asthma and Would be fatal if this happened.
2: The man should of listened to the police and put his hands behind his back, and just followed what he was saying.
3: Only retaliate from police if you can 100% prove that you did not commit a crime without a doubt and have evidence you didn't.
4: Even though he may of broken up the fight It is still protocol that he be quesioned in what occurred in the incident.
5: The Cop used a method of restraint taught to all police incase of an unruly suspect. No matter what it is his job to restrain the suspect if he is acting in an un-orderly Fashion.
6: Everything that happened was the cop enforcing standard protocol set forth by the Local, State, and National Goverment.
7: From what I saw there was no "Abuse" of power, it was simply protocol that ended horribly
8: If a cop is restraining you in a manner that can cause harm you must notify him if possibly. The man stated "I Can't Breath" twice, If instead he would of stated "Asthma" The could would of loosened up as that is indicating you have a medical issue.
9: If a cop confronts you and is attempting to handcuff you DO NOT IN ANY WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM Move, swing your arms, resist, or anything in that manner or they will have to restrain you by protocol.
10: What happened here is protocol. The cops where following what they where trained to do, and what they where trained to do if someone was resisting, What ended up happening is the man being restrained couldn't breathe but did not "attempt" to State he had asthma in any way or form, he simply said "I can't breathe". This could of gone better if the cops explained themselves more and he didn't "resist"

What happened here is truly sad but there was no Police "brutality" or "Abuse" of power. It was simply cops following protocol and it going wrong. I hope the police department and the cop issues a sincere apology and the family gets along through this time of grief.

All of these things you said are coming straight from your ass.
2) Why would he listen to the cops, the cops are scum of the earth. Yes they are not all terrible but some are **** disgusting.
3) There is evidence the man yelling "all he did was break up a fight"
4) Questions? He told them he wanted nothing to do with it. And is it protocol for them to jump the man? I saw no crime being committed by this man. And for that the cops will be put on a suspension leave or paid suspension.
6) Again protocol? No point of getting aggressive as the man was using the constitution to back him up! Freedom of Speech! 10 Amendments.
7) Oh yea the men did not jump on top of the man and choke him from the back and while he was screaming I cant breathe" they did nothing. Yea no abuse of power.
8) So now you are saying that if he stated "asthma" they would have let him up? Well he did say I cant breathe. Aint that the same thing?
9) Again this protocol thing. What is police protocol?
10) Now this is what is pissing me off. You think the cops apologizing for killing a **** man is going to bring him back. He was the father of 6 CHILDREN and 2 GRAND CHILDREN. Agh I am just going to turn off my computer I am done with people.

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Potion_Jr_Jr wrote Its sad this happened, But a few things I would like to point out.
1: The cops could not of known he had asthma and Would be fatal if this happened.
2: The man should of listened to the police and put his hands behind his back, and just followed what he was saying.
3: Only retaliate from police if you can 100% prove that you did not commit a crime without a doubt and have evidence you didn't.
4: Even though he may of broken up the fight It is still protocol that he be quesioned in what occurred in the incident.
5: The Cop used a method of restraint taught to all police incase of an unruly suspect. No matter what it is his job to restrain the suspect if he is acting in an un-orderly Fashion.
6: Everything that happened was the cop enforcing standard protocol set forth by the Local, State, and National Goverment.
7: From what I saw there was no "Abuse" of power, it was simply protocol that ended horribly
8: If a cop is restraining you in a manner that can cause harm you must notify him if possibly. The man stated "I Can't Breath" twice, If instead he would of stated "Asthma" The could would of loosened up as that is indicating you have a medical issue.
9: If a cop confronts you and is attempting to handcuff you DO NOT IN ANY WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM Move, swing your arms, resist, or anything in that manner or they will have to restrain you by protocol.
10: What happened here is protocol. The cops where following what they where trained to do, and what they where trained to do if someone was resisting, What ended up happening is the man being restrained couldn't breathe but did not "attempt" to State he had asthma in any way or form, he simply said "I can't breathe". This could of gone better if the cops explained themselves more and he didn't "resist"

What happened here is truly sad but there was no Police "brutality" or "Abuse" of power. It was simply cops following protocol and it going wrong. I hope the police department and the cop issues a sincere apology and the family gets along through this time of grief.

The things that are bolded and are in red are things I disagree with. Number 5, police are not "taught" to choke people out... keep in mind there were already multiple officers on top of him. So if that isn't brutality, I don't know what is.

If you are being choked, piled up on, arms being twisted, and probably disoriented by now, you are definitely not going to to think of the correct medical term to say you can not breathe. IF ANYONE SAYS THEY CAN'T BREATHE, THAT'S A SIGN SOMETHING IS GONNA GO WRONG.

I absolutely feel like the cop was acting out of place and in a manner he shouldn't have.


Cops have to follow "protocol" but, if you see that the man is struggling to breathe, follow the protocol of being a decent guy and releasing the choke hold while he is piled all over, and being grabbed and twisted.

The method is not used to choke him. The method is used to restrain him, struggling can restrict the airways. Now if you re watch after the first time of stating he can't breathe the cop actually lets go and place his hand on the back/side of the skull.

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If that is not clear enough watch the video and you will see the man continues to say he can not breathe even though no one is restricting which means his asthma is acting up, You cant hold a cop accountable for that.. Also I stated my reasoning earlier about this anyway so please re read that. Yes, By law there was NO police brutality that occurred.

To be honest, it doesn't matter if it was used to choke him or restrain him. That arm should have never been around his throat. That itself was a huge mistake on the cop's part. Chokeholds were apparently banned in New York over 20 years ago, and they are defined as, "any pressure to the throat or windpipe, which may prevent or hinder breathing or reduce intake of air." Doesn't say "unless the suspect struggles." There was pressure to the throat and/or windpipe. Right there is where the law was broken.

I refuse to even discuss this matter if you are going act like this, so just read what I stated earlier:

Please realize the reason the cops restrained him in this fashion after he resisted arrest is because of potential danger: Please understand that this man has been arrested 31 times. And this arrest wasn't just because he broke up a fight the man was also being arrested for illegally selling cigarettes. Now I understand this is sad, and I understand that im going to get down voted, But this was not police brutality. That has been the entire point im trying to get across.

@Yin thanks for saying that, I didn't know it was banned in new york, But where I live it is allowed under certain guidelines. Under that case how ever then the cop should be held accountable. But still Its not police brutality even though he broke a law, its only police brutality when if they went over jurisdiction, and for example "Beat him to death"

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Potion_Jr_Jr wrote Its sad this happened, But a few things I would like to point out.
1: The cops could not of known he had asthma and Would be fatal if this happened.
2: The man should of listened to the police and put his hands behind his back, and just followed what he was saying.
3: Only retaliate from police if you can 100% prove that you did not commit a crime without a doubt and have evidence you didn't.
4: Even though he may of broken up the fight It is still protocol that he be quesioned in what occurred in the incident.
5: The Cop used a method of restraint taught to all police incase of an unruly suspect. No matter what it is his job to restrain the suspect if he is acting in an un-orderly Fashion.
6: Everything that happened was the cop enforcing standard protocol set forth by the Local, State, and National Goverment.
7: From what I saw there was no "Abuse" of power, it was simply protocol that ended horribly
8: If a cop is restraining you in a manner that can cause harm you must notify him if possibly. The man stated "I Can't Breath" twice, If instead he would of stated "Asthma" The could would of loosened up as that is indicating you have a medical issue.
9: If a cop confronts you and is attempting to handcuff you DO NOT IN ANY WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM Move, swing your arms, resist, or anything in that manner or they will have to restrain you by protocol.
10: What happened here is protocol. The cops where following what they where trained to do, and what they where trained to do if someone was resisting, What ended up happening is the man being restrained couldn't breathe but did not "attempt" to State he had asthma in any way or form, he simply said "I can't breathe". This could of gone better if the cops explained themselves more and he didn't "resist"

What happened here is truly sad but there was no Police "brutality" or "Abuse" of power. It was simply cops following protocol and it going wrong. I hope the police department and the cop issues a sincere apology and the family gets along through this time of grief.

All of these things you said are coming straight from your ****.
2) Why would he listen to the cops, the cops are scum of the earth. Yes they are not all terrible but some are **** disgusting.
3) There is evidence the man yelling "all he did was break up a fight"
4) Questions? He told them he wanted nothing to do with it. And is it protocol for them to jump the man? I saw no crime being committed by this man. And for that the cops will be put on a suspension leave or paid suspension.
6) Again protocol? No point of getting aggressive as the man was using the constitution to back him up! Freedom of Speech! 10 Amendments.
7) Oh yea the men did not jump on top of the man and choke him from the back and while he was screaming I cant breathe" they did nothing. Yea no abuse of power.
8) So now you are saying that if he stated "asthma" they would have let him up? Well he did say I cant breathe. Aint that the same thing?
9) Again this protocol thing. What is police protocol?
10) Now this is what is pissing me off. You think the cops apologizing for killing a **** man is going to bring him back. He was the father of 6 CHILDREN and 2 GRAND CHILDREN. Agh I am just going to turn off my computer I am done with people.

I refuse to even discuss this matter if you are going act like this, so just read what I stated earlier:

Please realize the reason the cops restrained him in this fashion after he resisted arrest is because of potential danger: Please understand that this man has been arrested 31 times. And this arrest wasn't just because he broke up a fight the man was also being arrested for illegally selling cigarettes. Now I understand this is sad, and I understand that im going to get down voted, But this was not police brutality. That has been the entire point im trying to get across.

@Yin thanks for saying that, I didn't know it was banned in new york, But where I live it is allowed under certain guidelines. Under that case how ever then the cop should be held accountable. But still Its not police brutality even though he broke a law, its only police brutality when if they went over jurisdiction, and for example "Beat him to death"

Well I would say if the officer knew that chokeholds where illegal, then that is brutality on his part. But maybe there is a slight chance he didn't know, which I doubt it though.

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Potion_Jr_Jr wrote Its sad this happened, But a few things I would like to point out.
1: The cops could not of known he had asthma and Would be fatal if this happened.
2: The man should of listened to the police and put his hands behind his back, and just followed what he was saying.
3: Only retaliate from police if you can 100% prove that you did not commit a crime without a doubt and have evidence you didn't.
4: Even though he may of broken up the fight It is still protocol that he be quesioned in what occurred in the incident.
5: The Cop used a method of restraint taught to all police incase of an unruly suspect. No matter what it is his job to restrain the suspect if he is acting in an un-orderly Fashion.
6: Everything that happened was the cop enforcing standard protocol set forth by the Local, State, and National Goverment.
7: From what I saw there was no "Abuse" of power, it was simply protocol that ended horribly
8: If a cop is restraining you in a manner that can cause harm you must notify him if possibly. The man stated "I Can't Breath" twice, If instead he would of stated "Asthma" The could would of loosened up as that is indicating you have a medical issue.
9: If a cop confronts you and is attempting to handcuff you DO NOT IN ANY WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM Move, swing your arms, resist, or anything in that manner or they will have to restrain you by protocol.
10: What happened here is protocol. The cops where following what they where trained to do, and what they where trained to do if someone was resisting, What ended up happening is the man being restrained couldn't breathe but did not "attempt" to State he had asthma in any way or form, he simply said "I can't breathe". This could of gone better if the cops explained themselves more and he didn't "resist"

What happened here is truly sad but there was no Police "brutality" or "Abuse" of power. It was simply cops following protocol and it going wrong. I hope the police department and the cop issues a sincere apology and the family gets along through this time of grief.

All of these things you said are coming straight from your ****.
2) Why would he listen to the cops, the cops are scum of the earth. Yes they are not all terrible but some are **** disgusting.
3) There is evidence the man yelling "all he did was break up a fight"
4) Questions? He told them he wanted nothing to do with it. And is it protocol for them to jump the man? I saw no crime being committed by this man. And for that the cops will be put on a suspension leave or paid suspension.
6) Again protocol? No point of getting aggressive as the man was using the constitution to back him up! Freedom of Speech! 10 Amendments.
7) Oh yea the men did not jump on top of the man and choke him from the back and while he was screaming I cant breathe" they did nothing. Yea no abuse of power.
8) So now you are saying that if he stated "asthma" they would have let him up? Well he did say I cant breathe. Aint that the same thing?
9) Again this protocol thing. What is police protocol?
10) Now this is what is pissing me off. You think the cops apologizing for killing a **** man is going to bring him back. He was the father of 6 CHILDREN and 2 GRAND CHILDREN. Agh I am just going to turn off my computer I am done with people.

I refuse to even discuss this matter if you are going act like this, so just read what I stated earlier:

Please realize the reason the cops restrained him in this fashion after he resisted arrest is because of potential danger: Please understand that this man has been arrested 31 times. And this arrest wasn't just because he broke up a fight the man was also being arrested for illegally selling cigarettes. Now I understand this is sad, and I understand that im going to get down voted, But this was not police brutality. That has been the entire point im trying to get across.

@Yin thanks for saying that, I didn't know it was banned in new york, But where I live it is allowed under certain guidelines. Under that case how ever then the cop should be held accountable. But still Its not police brutality even though he broke a law, its only police brutality when if they went over jurisdiction, and for example "Beat him to death"

Well I would say if the officer knew that chokeholds where illegal, then that is brutality on his part. But maybe there is a slight chance he didn't know, which I doubt it though.

Well I wouldn't consider it brutality, How ever I would say that cop can be held 100% responsible now. But I still don't think it is brutality as when its the heat of the moment you really dont think about what is legal and what isnt, the cop simply reacted to a man that has been arrested 31 times and Responded in what he believed appropriate so yes he must suffer consequences but I still dont see a need to consider this brutality.